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Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by noduerme on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:08AM (#48595357)
You're suggesting people undergo endoscopy without anesthesia? You go first, bud.
Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by lambdaone on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:15AM (#48595399)
Conscious sedation, which is not the same thing as general anesthesia, is often used for endoscopy:

https://www.northerncarealliance.nhs.uk/patient-information/...

Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by elric on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:19AM (#48595423)
And sometimes it doesn't work. Patients are then given the option of going ahead without sedation, or rescheduling for general anaesthesia.
Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by colordrops on Friday June 19, 2026 @03:27AM (#48595804)
Hmm, I got one and they used ketamine and an amnesiatic. Not considered general anesthesia but I don't remember a thing. This was in the US.
Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by imtringued on Friday June 19, 2026 @07:28AM (#48597386)
But even "general anesthesia" still has differing categories.

Surgery uses propofol plus a gas anesthesia for "general anesthesia", but it is considered "general anesthesia" even if only propofol is used.

Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by elric on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:18AM (#48595416)
Which end are we scoping? Colonoscopy is often done without anaesthesia but tends to take longer than 2 minutes, so I'm not sure if that's what OC is referring to. It's uncomfortable, but that's ok. Scoping nose/mouth->stomach also doesn't come with any drugs, just some lube.
Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by sersi on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:34AM (#48595506)
I've done it (it's standard in many countries). Honestly, it's a bit horrifying because you are completely at the mercy of someone else but it's bearable. Colonoscopy is definitely easier.

My only experience with global anesthesia was as a child waking up with a massive asthma attack unable to breathe so I try to avoid it.

Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by eru on Friday June 19, 2026 @03:37AM (#48595881)
> Honestly, it's a bit horrifying because you are completely at the mercy of someone else but it's bearable.

Probably not as horrifying as brain surgery or getting your eyes lasered.

Re:Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion a... by ekianjo on Friday June 19, 2026 @02:47AM (#48595576)
very common. doing it routinely. you never heard of it?