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Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by lonelyasacloud on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:23PM (#48578415)
> Uh....that's more the fault of a president

Who so far has been put into office twice by?

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by Terr_ on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:40PM (#48578575)
Voters, but a minority of them.* Then kept in office by a minority (43%) of Republican Senate legislators.

* Yes, that is the correct term. In each election >50% chose "Not Trump".

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by try_the_bass on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @08:29PM (#48578935)
> Yes, that is the correct term. In each election >50% chose "Not Trump".

Uhhh... Not voting at all doesn't count as "Not Trump". It counts as "I don't care," which implicitly means "whatever everyone else thinks".

This is such a dumb thing to try to play semantic games about. A majority of voters elected the clown, and the population of non-voters is complicit in that.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by Terr_ on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @10:26PM (#48579858)
Your comment is supercilious and confidently-incorrect. The most-charitable interpretation is that you have been misinformed ever since the last election from some preliminary estimate of incomplete counts.

1. Of all ballots, only 49.7961% were for Trump. [0]

2. Of ballots where someone made a non-blank choice for President, 50.1976% were for candidates who were not-Trump.

So when I explicitly wrote about a "minority" of "voters", that really does mean an an actual mathematical minority of the people who actually voted, thankyouverymuchdamnit.

[0] https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres...

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by try_the_bass on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @11:08PM (#48580253)
Wow, you're pretty obnoxious.

Guess you're right, though

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by Terr_ on Thursday June 18, 2026 @12:23AM (#48580784)
> This is such a dumb thing to try to play semantic games about. [...] Wow, you're pretty obnoxious.

As the saying goes: "Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'."

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by pirates on Thursday June 18, 2026 @08:14AM (#48584168)
You tried calling them out with a “gotcha” to make yourself look smart and then got told off, but they’re the obnoxious one?
Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by try_the_bass on Sunday June 21, 2026 @05:37PM (#48622842)
No, I called them out on something I thought they were wrong about because they were being super obnoxious in the way they were stating it.

Turns out they were right, but instead of losing the attitude, they doubled down on the toxicity. When I admitted they were right, they doubled down again.

So yeah, pretty obnoxious, all told.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by grey-area on Thursday June 18, 2026 @03:26AM (#48581988)
By your figures, about 50% chose Trump, twice.

Enough to condemn the US forever in the eyes of the world. It’s no longer seen as a reliable ally or a desirable destination by the majority around the world.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by Terr_ on Thursday June 18, 2026 @04:34AM (#48582513)
Strictly speaking, that Presidential race was not enough, since Trump alone would have been far-more survivable. A mere repeat of 2016-2020 would have been shameful and humiliating, but not the same kind of diplomatic self-implosion.

What is enough involves the outcomes of other elections/candidates, where almost all the Republican party decided that this time around they were going to go into full-steam ahead with Trump's whims and crimes.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by grey-area on Thursday June 18, 2026 @05:04AM (#48582773)
He has, as predicted, destroyed the very idea of America, and all those who voted for him and are collaborating with him deserve the consequences, particularly his followers who he reliably uses then betrays. I feel sorry for the people who didn’t vote for him though, the slide into fascism is beginning and many don’t recognise it yet.
Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by lonelyasacloud on Thursday June 18, 2026 @06:25AM (#48583332)
Yes, largely the fault of a people's imperfect system that their ancestor's elected representatives largely built and they inherited.

There are only one people that have any chance of changing that system though.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by slater on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:25PM (#48578435)
Grifty ignoramuses...?