Actually we need to force our European governments to use services that do not depend on foreign services (ie. Google or Apple). Then I guess it will only then become obvious to them how crazy the situation has become.

The company's have done their thing to ensure that the average guy wouldn't even try escaping their lock-in. So chances are becoming smaller and smaller to hope for a critical mass of users to complain.

Yes, the EU calls it "digital sovereignty" and is currently "in" with the EU.

I don't use Graphene, but now I'm out of the market for a VW.

Vendor lock-in to Play services is ridiculous.

A car is a big purchase, and ideally not something I discard after a few years. I'd like it to not treat me like a second-class citizen and renter who can't make decisions over how to extend the life of my purchase.

It's ridiculous, but are we only saying that because we're on HN or is it because the portion of the userbase who thinks it's actually a bad thing is the larger one?

Who cares if it's the larger one, so long as they are the correct one?

VW, presumably.

which is why shaming them is a valid attempt to get them to "think". it has worked in the past (particularly with bmw!).

specially because no car really supports grapheneos, but it can be used in any car supporting regular android provided google play is installed which ensures google's certification and validation is being preserved. if i get this right bmw is actively blocking this, which would be just a dick move.