If you already have a gaming desktop, I can recommend Shield for both. Streaming services work out of the box of course. Then I use Sunshine[1] on my desktop to stream to Moonlight on the Shield. Both have wired ethernet connections. Latency is not noticeable in most cases.

[1]: https://app.lizardbyte.dev/Sunshine/

Nah, gave my desktop to my sister :e

I like the laptop idea, I'd go with Linux instead of Windows, and even then I think it would be a challenge to get it working well with a remote. Nvidia Shield is just Android TV, which means handing Google all your data. Of course, Apple TV means handing Apple all your data, but that seems like maybe the least bad option. I don't know, I'm just tired of all of this shit.

I feel like remote can be convenient, but that I could get by with bluetooth keyboard with a built-in trackpad.

I wonder if it would be possible to operate the computer as a whole with PS5 controller :thinking:

Agree Apple TV is not especially impressive (like, it’s fine, but I especially dislike the remote). I mostly just use my playstation, but there are some apps (criterion being the main one) that are not on the PS, so I use the Apple TV for those

Can you watch stuff from PlayStation though, like Netflix? lol

Yes, it has netflix, hbo, hulu, crunchyroll, etc etc etc. Even Apple TV (the streaming service).

The only thing I use but isn’t on there is criterion.

Shit, maybe I should just get a PlayStation :0

I resisted buying an apple tv for a long time, because I was going to have a playstation either way for games!

The (relatively) poor quality and difficulty of hooking my laptop up to the TV for criterion eventually pushed me to get one just for that, since there’s no word on if criterion has any plans to release an app for PS