“It was built by Americans and regardless would have continued to be built by Americans.”

The xenophobic ignorance of this sentence is breathtaking. America, of all places, is a nation built precisely by immigrants.

Settlers not immigrants. Immigrants come to a country and people that already exist. Settlers build anew.

Historically then, unless you are a Native American, you are an immigrant.

Perhaps it’s time for to GTFO? Is that the message?

Hacker News really resembles a MAGA rally at times

When the plymouth colony was established the amerindian population was greatly reduced due to disease that swept through <5 years before. The colonists found many empty villages.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5xp7B7ISI1DymhuoGuoN_WWl...

Refugees is maybe more accurate when it comes to country. We sprouted out of the social scene that was displaced by the English Civil War.

And the wars of religion generally. Eg, the Dutch in Pennsylvania and hugenots.

The fact that the billionaire class has convinced you to argue against your own interests (importing tens of millions of people to compete with you for housing and jobs) shows how effective their media control is.

Using the word "immigrant" to blanket all people who have moved here, as if anyone who moves to the US is exactly the same, is a trick. Someone who moves here from Norway is obviously not the same as someone who moves here from Chad. The settlers who built towns and cities from raw wilderness are obviously not the same as someone who gets on a plane and flies to New York to claim free government benefits.

They are different in a million ways, and using "immigrant" to blend them together is a sleight of hand. Anyone with common sense understands that the nation of the USA is/was a place with a specific culture and genetic makeup. Indeed much of Silicon Valley was built and founded during what was a period of very LOW immigration (1950's and 1960's).

To expand even more: importing people from a place makes your country more like the place those people come from. Europe had invented and built incredible things when the USA was founded, almost EVERY immigrant who came to the US until 1965 was from Europe. It's no wonder that the USA became the world's only superpower. Since 1965 we have switched our policy to import people from the entire planet (at much higher numbers than before) and we are pretending that it will have the same result as importing only Europeans.

“Anyone with common sense understands that the nation of the USA is/was a place with a specific culture and genetic makeup”

This is genuinely racist. You are a vile human being.

Reported.

I have no hate for anyone. Applying the "phobic" and "racist" labels to things you disagree with is just a way of avoiding engaging with ideas. Most people can see that. If you want to win the argument long term, you need to engage with these ideas and actually provide a decent counterargument.

Was the 1965 Hart-Celler immigration act a good thing? Has the country improved the quality of life for its citizens since then?

The answer is obviously "no" for anyone who's not a billionaire.

> They raise the cost of housing

Oh! how dare they! How can they even think of finding a place to live

The country has a huge housing crisis, young people rank it as their biggest problem by far. Bringing in more people to further drive up the cost hurts Americans.