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Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by Aurornis on Friday June 05, 2026 @03:52PM (#48417331)
You don't need an AI attribution tag to recognize slop. In my experience reviewing PRs, the slop-pushers are most aggressive about stripping the AI attribution anyway. It's the normal devs who use a little bit of AI who leave it in.

The tag is helpful because AI authorship is different than the human authorship. When you work with a project or team for long enough you start to trust certain people and their intuition, but when they start submitting AI-produced code you have to reset and review it like AI code.

I use these tools a lot, too. But I want to know where the code came from so I can review it accordingly. The source matters.

> Ostracize us?

I don't know why you're so defensive. If AI wrote the code just be honest about it.

If you outsourced the code writing to some guy named Bob on Fiverr, I'd want to know that too.

Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Friday June 05, 2026 @03:57PM (#48417395)
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by Aurornis on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:10PM (#48417534)
I'm not interesting in joining into some argument you're having with someone on lobste.rs
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:13PM (#48417559)
You're not supposed to join. You said you didn't know why I was defensive. I showed you those posts as evidence of the stigma attached to LLMs and their usage. Now you know why.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by eschaton on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:08PM (#48418317)
It doesn’t help your case that your response is to say “well I’ll just hide my use.” That’s fraud.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:22PM (#48418516)
No.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by eschaton on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:59PM (#48418915)
Yes.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by int_19h on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:35PM (#48420511)
You're not entitled to know what specific tools were used to produce something, generally speaking.

In the absence of such an entitlement, not volunteering to disclose the tools used is not fraud.

Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by Ronsenshi on Friday June 05, 2026 @10:43PM (#48420898)
Don't think calling a PR written by AI is the same thing as using a "tool". If code is largely generated by AI means that AI was an author and not you with some tool.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:21AM (#48421354)
At what point does it cease to be AI generated and become my own work?

If LLM generates some code but I edit it, does it become my own work? How much editing must be done?

How large is "largely" ? Exactly how many bits of information must come from my fingers tapping the keyboard in order for me to qualify for authorship? Be precise.

If I write something but the LLM polishes it up a bit, is it still my work? Or is it AI generated?

Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by kelnos on Saturday June 06, 2026 @05:16AM (#48422986)
Consider the rules around copyright. If your part of it is substantive, then it's your own work. If it isn't, then it isn't.

I'm not going to define substantive for you. That's something you should feel obligated to research and learn about yourself; anything less is dishonest.

Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:15PM (#48426397)
Copyright provides for works made for hire. You are the author, yet your employer owns it. You're essentially ghostwriting your employer's software.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by Ronsenshi on Saturday June 06, 2026 @11:34AM (#48426012)
I don't have an answer about the stage when something should be considered authored by AI - we are in an uncharted territory on this.

There are some precedents and rulings related to copyright and AI, so we have at least some rubric by which "authorship" can be determined. But when it comes to AI doing polishing of existing code - that is less certain.

Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by kelnos on Saturday June 06, 2026 @05:15AM (#48422982)
Maybe you should step back and see if there's a reason why there's a stigma, instead of stubbornly insisting that there's nothing different between submitting work that you wrote yourself, vs. work done by an LLM.
Re:Did Claude Increase Bugs in Rsync? by matheusmoreira on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:04PM (#48426294)
Maybe you should stop making excuses for the summary dismissal of people's years old projects as slop on the basis that an LLM touched it.