Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by bonsai_spool on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:56AM
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This is not a practical challenge - I order DNA from Twist at these ‘large’ scales trivially without needing to do oligo hybridization magic. The DNA arrives in a month - but considering how many oligos sidewinder calls for, not clear how they could be faster.
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Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by cge on Friday June 05, 2026 @08:49AM
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At a basic level, methods of combining oligos to produce long strands have been known for ages. The challenge is to be able to produce them with low enough error, high enough yield, and enough freedom on sequence. Low error improves your yield, reduces the amount of purification and amplification needed, and lets you make longer strands. Sequence constraints can be significant, too, especially around repeats.
If you're talking about Twist's gene fragment product, they advertise that as maxing out at 5 kb. Most, if not essentially all, of that month delivery time is likely the combination, not the oligo pool production. I think the Sidewinder people are actually using Twist pools; they're doing up to 12.5 kb.
By comparison, we recently needed something in the 20 kb range, with a not-so-great sequence, and it was a multi-month process to have a company produce it.
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by kardianos on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:24AM
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Yes. Whole genome sequencing has... some limits. CYP2D6 for instance is an important gene address, yet is rather hard to sequence do to its many copies and minor mutations. If you don't use targeted copy callers, it can be hard to correctly sequence in WGS.
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by bonsai_spool on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:29AM
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> Yes. Whole genome sequencing has
We're speaking about gene synthesis, not about DNA sequencing
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by dnautics on Friday June 05, 2026 @12:38PM
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> not-so-great sequence
are the limits on not-so-greatness for sidewinder known?
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by amirhirsch on Friday June 05, 2026 @01:25PM
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https://ansabio.com/ advertising 50 kb
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by LarsDu88 on Friday June 05, 2026 @01:49PM
(#48415927)
How is ANSA bio? I just got hit up by a recruiter for this company at random, and now I see them mentioned on Hackernews
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by amirhirsch on Friday June 05, 2026 @03:44PM
(#48417232)
It's a sign! I'm too biased to give you advice.
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by LarsDu88 on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:29PM
(#48418593)
You work there?
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by amirhirsch on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:29PM
(#48419175)
the founder and i lived together at MIT. definitely go work there <3
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by LarsDu88 on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:56AM
(#48421533)
Hmmmmm
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by dnautics on Friday June 05, 2026 @12:37PM
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12kb, you can get three gblocks in a week and change and have them assembled in two days.
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by bonsai_spool on Saturday June 06, 2026 @10:23AM
(#48425428)
Not sure if the oligo approach would circumvent this concern, but I had a GC-content issue with gene blocks that precluded me from using them. Twist was able to do the synthesis, however (not sure what platform they use for their synthesis and why they were able to offer this).
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by sterlind on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:41PM
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out of curiosity, what do you do with them? what's your use case for large DNA?
Re:Leap in DNA synthesis slashes time to build new genetic s...
by bonsai_spool on Saturday June 06, 2026 @07:19AM
(#48423817)
For me it makes it easier to study long, alternatively spliced genes.
But there are many use cases - you can see them described on vendors’ pages and even in this new post.