News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by abstractbill on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @06:31PM (#48391032)
A couple of times I've tried somewhat seriously to build "google docs for ableton" (meaning two people editing the same project on different computers, seeing each other's edits in realtime). Frustratingly I decided it was impossible to do a really good job of it back then. This sounds like it might finally make it doable!
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by coldtea on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:41PM (#48391656)
Don't kick yourself. It's not possible with Google Docs either. All these collaborative document editors have been mostly gimmicks/wastes of time.
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by hammyhavoc on Friday June 05, 2026 @08:29PM (#48420122)
I use Nextcloud Office all the time with others. Prior to that, we used OneDrive/Office and Google Drive.

With tight deadlines, there frequently isn't the time to not be working concurrently on the same doc, especially when it comes to anything technical.

Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by DesaiAshu on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @11:49PM (#48393533)
We should talk - I'm building a new DAW with this in mind :)
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by brookst on Thursday June 04, 2026 @08:19AM (#48397614)
We should talk - I’m building a Claude Code plugin for music composition and analysis, which currently integrates with Ableton using MCP and Ableton control surface (basically LOM) and an M4L patch. But it could easily work with any DAW that has the right primitives.
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:29PM (#48417770)
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by brookst on Saturday June 06, 2026 @11:00AM (#48425727)
Yeah, also https://github.com/ahujasid/ableton-mcp

But the MCP server isn’t the interesting part. It’s the round trip of composition and mixing. “Set up a calypso beat and baseline; add distortion to the bass; set up filters to protect the kick from the bass”

Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by PaulDavisThe1st on Saturday June 06, 2026 @12:01PM (#48426268)
> It’s the round trip of composition and mixing.

That's a very personal thing. A lot of musicians are extremely, extremely resistant to using LLMs to assist with composition. Obviously, too, some are not.

Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by brookst on Saturday June 06, 2026 @02:10PM (#48427426)
For sure. I'm just making a circular saw because I see value. If someone else wants to stick to hand tools, no complaints.

Note that "assist with composition" covers a lot of ground. There's Suno, and there's "let's experiment with chords changes to get from F Phrygian to C major"

Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by tomduncalf on Thursday June 04, 2026 @01:51AM (#48394541)
Ha yeah I have considered the same. There’s not enough info exposed via the Python or Max APIs (or indeed this one) to sync all the state you’d care about so I think the only option would be syncing the actual als files (which are zipped XML) which means you’d only be able to sync at save points
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by ddosmax556 on Thursday June 04, 2026 @05:20AM (#48396149)
check audiotool
Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by embedding-shape on Thursday June 04, 2026 @05:31AM (#48396217)
In the past, I've literally done screen-sharing for this, one "instructor" and one "pilot", basically like how you do remote pair programming typically, but with Ableton instead.

Besides that, Ableton themselves list a bunch of tools I assume works on some level, as they're listed in the help pages of Ableton: https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012680119-Best...

Re:Ableton Extensions SDK by hammyhavoc on Friday June 05, 2026 @08:25PM (#48420091)
If you ever take another stab at it, would love to hear about it. [email protected]