Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by johndhi on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @07:05AM
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Which vendor would you rather use in this context, with your sensitive customer data?
-vendor A's list of sub-processors is a mile long and includes providers of questionable repute;
-vendor B's list is short and includes AWS and GCP
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by hectormalot on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:52AM
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We have a vendor with almost no subprocessors because they run their own hardware in a colo.
It is refreshing actually. They can accurately answer questions on how everything works and there is no subsubsubprocessors to worry about.
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by gobdovan on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:03AM
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I think he's arguing about OpenAI vendoring specifically, where OpenAI has a lot of subprocessors, but AWS doesn't and there's not really a 3rd camp to choose from, yet. But even there you can't just choose AWS as I tried to illustrate in uncle comment.
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by hectormalot on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:41PM
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Ah my mistake, I thought he was making a broader point that other providers always have deep subprocessor stacks.
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by alchemism on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:07AM
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The politics of multimillion dollar contracts for public clouds go far, far, far beyond the preferences of an acquisition team, or what the engineers may think.
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by gobdovan on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:34AM
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This is too vague to respond to meaningfully.
Re:OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
by eventualcomp on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:21AM
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Praise be the accountability sink. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41891694
I'm just tired of the 'everyone follows their immediate incentives while the system stays incoherent' as the de facto reality. I think shedding some light over the actual mechanics would maybe make someone consider 'perhaps we shouldn't allow our acquisition team just turn off their brain and choose the default to cover their bottoms; maybe vendors are worth more decision investment via actual thinking instead of performatively ending up on the default choice after a little ritualistic game of "eeny, meeny, miny, AWS"'.
I think it's worth pointing out that Jeff Bezos would fight this tooth and nail from happening in his companies. He popularised 'process as proxy'. Yet AWS as sold to external enterprises is the exact proxy Bezos warned against internally. Do what Bezos does, and even what Bezos preaches, just don't do by default what Bezos sells.