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Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by scoofy on Monday June 01, 2026 @09:56PM (#48364993)
Yea, that's easy to say now.

I was a relatively early investor (2008), but I was very hesitant early on because Microsoft was building an integrated search function, which became Windows Live Search, which became Bing. I definitely remember it took me to the beginning of the financial crisis to finally decide that it was going nowhere. I suspect it was the development of Google Maps that changed my mind.

Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by ethbr1 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:40AM (#48369477)
"Google" of today is really AdSense ($102M, 2003) -> Android ($50M+?, 2005) -> YouTube ($1.6B, 2006) -> Google Docs ($50M+?, 2006)

Without those prescient and lucky acquisitions, we'd be talking about a "Google" that looked much more like Yahoo.

It wasn't search proficiency that built the empire, it was leveraging a transient search quality advantage into cash flow, then plowing that cash into acquisitions to construct a durable moat.

Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by icedchai on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:08PM (#48372145)
I remember late 90's, early 2000's Google. Search result quality was still better than the competition (mainly Altavista...)
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by ethbr1 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:28PM (#48373303)
But that only would have lasted until the next search innovation and/or competitors copied Google's indexing.
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by icedchai on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:38PM (#48373462)
There were many search engines around during that time. Yahoo, Excite, Microsoft Live Search, Lycos... I don't recall any of them improving enough to rival early 2000's Google.
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by ethbr1 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:52AM (#48382793)
None of those scaled as quickly as Google in terms of revenue (read: AdSense), and Microsoft lost interest.
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by icedchai on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @08:17AM (#48382984)
AdSense wasn't a thing until 2003. Google didn't have much revenue before that. However, they still surpassed their competition in quality of search results long before...
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by ethbr1 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @08:21PM (#48392039)
Yes. My point is that Google had a temporary search quality advantage… then AdSense-fueled revenue allowed them to convert that to a durable moat by outspending their competitors.

That didn't happen because they were magically amazing at search forever.

It happened because Google had a good business plan and could afford to throw gobs of money at engineers and infrastructure, in quantities that even Microsoft was unwilling to match.

Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by ompogUe on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @04:50PM (#48389843)
Was on a team that was trying to sell AltaVista a social media presence (before facebook/myspace/etc). Our people were mostly using Google, but we still wanted the client. One of the "moderation experts" on our side (i.e. - not tech or busniess) who evidently didn't understand what AltaVista was about asked them "Why don't you just use Google? It's better".
Re:Anthropic confidentially submits draft S-1 to the SEC by radicalbyte on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @02:01AM (#48380479)
Erm 2008 isn't early, I had been using it for almost a decade by then. They had won by 2001. No-one who knew Microsoft thought that they had a chance with Bing. This was post-Gates and Microsoft were already a laughing stock in 2008 with respect to the web.