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Re:Dav2d by Arodex on Sunday May 31, 2026 @09:02AM (#48345368)
The algorithms deployed in these kind of codecs take into account not only human vision and mathematical laws of information, but also nitty-gritty details of how computers work, which are optimally exploited by directly having humans write detailed assembly rather than a compiler make a best guess and effort.
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Re:Dav2d by alkonaut on Monday June 01, 2026 @03:20AM (#48353590)
Surely 100% of these low level features are availale in rust too? I understand it is a massive undertaking and builds off the previous codec(s) but writing these things by hand such as inline assembly seems to be as easy if not easier in Rust?

And as soon as you walk into concurrency territory for a complex codec like this then it seems almost impossible for humans to do correctly while retaining safety.

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Re:Dav2d by rafaelmn on Monday June 01, 2026 @05:42AM (#48354629)
Why ? If it's shared reads and scoped writes (read-only look up, output to a thread owned buffer span) concurrency seems pretty straightforward.

Rust can only prove a limited subset of correct programs to be safe, when you're doing bare metal stuff you've often not in that subsystem and drop down to unsafe. I'm guessing there's always stuff that's not perf critical and can live in Rust sandbox - so not saying no wins - but it doesn't sound like Rust is a no-brainer.

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Re:Dav2d by alkonaut on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @05:58AM (#48368105)
I mean all else being equal, I'd just take the ergonomics (dependency management, build-system/multi-targeting, modern language features, no h-files, ...) and run. I can always just write at the level I want (safe rust, unsafe rust, C, inline asm...).

I still think no one should in 2026 be writing a nontrivial codec or anything parsing untrusted data, in C. There's just no excuse.

The gains are re-use of skill and code. And I hope that's the reason this is continuing with C, this is basically a v2 of an existing project, not a greenfield codec, even if it's much larger.

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