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Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Saturday May 23, 2026 @10:25PM (#48253735)
The things you’re describing are superficial. My wife’s dad is a Japanophile and she grew up eating sushi, etc. That doesn’t make her Japanese.

Assimilation is about how you think and what you value. It’s not just knowing about the American political system, but understanding and embracing the values and worldview that created it.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by yulker on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:19PM (#48254023)
Go ahead and tell us what it means to be a real American then
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:36PM (#48254118)
There’s a few different kinds. For example, older people from Massachusetts. The kind who think garlic is a spice, “food is for fuel, not enjoyment,” and plan to run out of food at picnics because it would be worse to have too much and waste food.

My father in law is another example. His ancestors came to the U.S. before the revolutionary war and went to Oregon on the wagon trials. He’s soft-spoken, skeptical by default of government and academic knowledge, involved of community civic institutions, extremely tolerant, etc. He grew up dirt poor but would never say he was disadvantaged.

I’d say Tim Walz and Bill Clinton are other stereotypical examples of real Americans. The Obamas, as well, though representing two different groups of Americans.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by apawloski on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:51PM (#48254205)
Are you a real American? Am I?
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:02AM (#48254268)
I’m not. I have a Bangladeshi sense of the flow of time, I have basically traditional beliefs about family structure, raising children, social obligations to elders, etc.

But I appreciate and enjoy Americans the same way I appreciate and enjoy the Japanese.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by oa335 on Tuesday May 26, 2026 @01:19PM (#48282752)
> I’m not. I have a Bangladeshi sense of the flow of time, I have basically traditional beliefs about family structure, raising children, social obligations to elders, etc.

Why don't you live by your principles and return to Bangladesh? To use your own argument (not mine), your culture is both inferior to the American culture and Americans have voted to not have "your kind" here.

One way or another, you are being disingenuous, either through your words or your actions.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by Epa095 on Sunday May 24, 2026 @03:45AM (#48255346)
Your description of 'real Americans' remind me of the description of Gavin Newsom as 'looking like an American president in a Canadian movie'.
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by sersi on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:13PM (#48253983)
And how much does the Trump administration understand and embrace the values and worldview that created the American political system. How much do they agree with the Founding Fathers? ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’?
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:30PM (#48254079)
Honestly, not very well. Trump is from an immigrant background. He doesn’t talk like an American (unlike Obama or Bush or Clinton). The American right these days is filled with people from recent immigrant ancestry whose understanding of American values is something of an impersonation of the real thing.

The founder’s America ceased to exist at the national level with the election of FDR.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by selimthegrim on Monday May 25, 2026 @08:08AM (#48265907)
FDR was quite blue-blooded himself.
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by pstuart on Thursday May 28, 2026 @08:14PM (#48317328)
Was that "Rose-uh-velt" or "Roos-uh-velt"?
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by dwa3592 on Sunday May 24, 2026 @07:56AM (#48256532)
>>Assimilation is about how you think and what you value. It’s not just knowing about the American political system, but understanding and embracing the values and worldview that created it.

Now you are just bullshitting bc you think you have ran out of substantive things to say, which you never had, to begin with.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Sunday May 24, 2026 @09:54AM (#48257294)
Do you think that people from different cultures don’t have different values and worldviews?
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by pstuart on Thursday May 28, 2026 @08:23PM (#48317384)
Do you think that kids born in America (or anywhere for that matter) don't care about fitting in with the other kids? Did you? When you were a kid were you more concerned about your Bangladeshi heritage or not being an outsider amongst your peers?

And yet I'm sure you didn't lose respect for your family and background, because one can do both things simultaneously. But those other brown people are different and bad and have bad culture that ruins things, right?