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Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by l23k4 on Thursday May 21, 2026 @04:23AM (#48219475)
Why is it crazy? EU has the "basic payment account" scheme which makes sure that ultimately nobody is left without a bank account.
Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by econ on Thursday May 21, 2026 @06:33AM (#48220423)
Yeah, so they say.

The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight.

The us also freely debanks people (and their family!) in the eu without any kind of legal process.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/europea...

Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you.

So they are pretty much free to not respond.

https://www.eccnet.eu/news/ecc-net-calls-stronger-enforcemen...

Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by joe_mamba on Thursday May 21, 2026 @09:54AM (#48222586)
>The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight.

Yepo, that's scarier to me than big-tech closing my email account. The issue is HN users defend the EU on its trigger happy ability to debank its citizen without a court trial.

Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by l23k4 on Thursday May 21, 2026 @01:00PM (#48225853)
>The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight.

Which committee is that?

>Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account

Such requirements tend to exist only in the case of basic PAD accounts.

>but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you.

So? Reporting you does nothing.

Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by econ on Thursday May 21, 2026 @02:14PM (#48226841)
If they think you are a fraudster or terrorist (etc) they have to refuse giving you an account and must silently report you. What would happen if they skip/delay the reporting part?
Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by joe_mamba on Thursday May 21, 2026 @03:04PM (#48227497)
Fair enough, but what do we do when the banks abuse this system to just cut off honest people they just don't want to serve because of whatever reason, maybe profit? That's the definition of discrimiantion.
Re:Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to ... by l23k4 on Friday May 22, 2026 @03:19AM (#48232984)
Banks are required to provide fairly detailed information when refusing basic PAD accounts on those grounds. This doesn't apply to regular bank accounts, but these are specifically the accounts intended by regulators for people who'd otherwise not be able to access banking services.

>What would happen if they skip/delay the reporting part?

They wouldn't. Typically banks take the approach of filing as many reports as they can. If you're overeager in filing the reports, nobody will look at them and you will not be blamed for not filing those reports.

Google for something along the lines of "suspicious activity report flooded" and you'll find endless stories demonstrating how ineffective these systems are.