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Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by bit-anarchist on Monday May 18, 2026 @01:59PM (#48183093)
This comment is born out of a superficial understanding of anthropology, altruism and selfishness.

Most of the coalitions you mentioned are, ultimately, born out of the realization that, sometimes, you have to give a little now, to gain more later. Even charity at its pure idealistic form requires the altruistic individual to feel they made the world better in their own view (psychic profit, thus ultimately selfish) to happen.

This isn't the "default capitalist view", this is praxeology, plain and simple.

Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by wolvesechoes on Monday May 18, 2026 @04:03PM (#48184807)
Why people in the past cared for old, sick and disabled?
Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by bit-anarchist on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @12:25AM (#48189157)
Multiple possible reasons:

1. Social pressures. Failing to care for others can result in social stigma, with increasing levels of alienation depending of culture/society; 2. Setting examples for reciprocity . One can help others today to set the expection to receive support later. All become old, sick and/or disabled at some point (if they don't die beforehand, immortals notwithstanding); 3. Friends and relatives are valuable in multiple ways; 4. Some just see value in helping others, either in the act or the results.

These are the examples I can state on top of my head. They all require each individual's evaluation scales to favor such motivations.

Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by wolvesechoes on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @01:56AM (#48189752)
> 1. Social pressures

How these social pressures could arise if all people in society acts out of selfishness?

> 2. Setting examples for reciprocity

What kind of reciprocity exists if we talk about healthy adults taking care of disabled children that would likely die in few years?

> Some just see value in helping others, either in the act or the results.

Oh, how close it is to saying "people are often being selfless"!

Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by bit-anarchist on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @02:14AM (#48189836)
> How these social pressures could arise if all people in society acts out of selfishness?

Possibly due to point 2, for instance.

> What kind of reciprocity exists if we talk about healthy adults taking care of disabled children that would likely die in few years?

You do realize that people may become disabled in their lives, right? It's not just children.

In any case, that can also be explained by point 3.

> Oh, how close it is to saying "people are often being selfless"!

But it isn't, and that's the point. This is a case of self-actualization, the highest expression of the "self". Some may argue that this is "selflessness", but I argue that this is "selfishness" in its purest form: the pursuance of one's highly personal goal, i.e. psychic profit seeking.

Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by bit-anarchist on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @11:06AM (#48194331)
Also, I just noticed you said "often". But I don't think point 4 is that common. That is, the goal of helping others isn't that high in most people' personal preferences scales, specially in comparison to the other points.
Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by throaway198234 on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @09:09AM (#48192842)
Human capacity for empathy is an evolutionary advantage. When we take care of old or sick individuals (resource permitting) we keep their knowledge base in the group. We also can expect that others will take care of us, which give us more incentive to care for others and strengthen the community itself.

Eventually we benefit from it in our old age and teach our grandkids to remember about it as they get older.

Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by throaway198234 on Monday May 18, 2026 @02:03PM (#48183159)
LLM POST!
Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by bit-anarchist on Monday May 18, 2026 @03:17PM (#48184180)
Nope, this is 100% human-written.
Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by throaway198234 on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @09:07AM (#48192820)
Darn, you sound like one.
Re:Actually, Democracy Dies in H.R. by sowerssix on Monday May 18, 2026 @10:53PM (#48188648)
A Master of Laws? We should be so lucky! /s