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Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by bifrost on Thursday November 22, 2012 @04:17AM (#4818090)
This just reeks of dumb. Seriously guys, support 64 bit platforms or perish.
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by Negitivefrags on Thursday November 22, 2012 @05:29AM (#4818264)
They do support 64 bit platforms. With 32 bit binaries.

If you have no need for more than 3gb of memory per process then 32 bit is a great choice. The pointers being half size is a non-trivial memory saving.

I'd be happy if windows would let you use something like the x32 build target that linux got recently for extra registers though.

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by josephlord on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:24AM (#4818383)
There will be a memory saving but the loss of access to better instructions and the registers would surely cost you some performance overall (may be benchmark and processor dependent)
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by ZoFreX on Thursday November 22, 2012 @07:00AM (#4818447)
32-bit processes can get 4GB of memory on 64-bit Windows: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa36...

I thought the limit was 2GB, which Firefox is getting dangerously close to. 4GB gives a lot more wiggle room, but I wonder how long it will last...

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by alexkus on Thursday November 22, 2012 @08:39AM (#4818686)
I'd rather not have to pollute a pure 64-bit install with a whole bunch of 32-bit libraries to run just one 32-bit app though. It's adds even more headache keeping those patched and up to date.
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by ibotty on Thursday November 22, 2012 @11:21AM (#4819198)
remember that we are talking windows here. which libraries do you have to patch for firefox (i.e. those they do not ship and which are not in the core win os)?
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by keeperofdakeys on Thursday November 22, 2012 @08:01AM (#4818589)
The problem is you need almost-contrived situations to notice these kinds of improvements, and a web browser deals with way too much I/O to fit into this category.
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by shawn-butler on Thursday November 22, 2012 @05:07AM (#4818196)
Have you noticed any tangible benefit to using a 64-bit build over a 32-bit one? Performance of the current x64 builds as measured by responsiveness and javascript benchmarks is about on-par with the 32-bit version for most things; the performance and even compilation of plugins is however another matter entirely and the reason for using Firefox for me over another solution is almost always the plugins available.

I have been using PaleMoon builds and from what I gather the source tree is not being tombstoned, just the nightly builds. [0]

The reasons given for crashes (driver/component out-of-tree bugs) make sense but I'm not really involved in the development or testing so I'm sure others will have better input.

[0] http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1700

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by raverbashing on Thursday November 22, 2012 @05:52AM (#4818310)
Let me just say something

"Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition released on April 25, 2005" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edi...

7 years.

Go to a store, see what kind of Windows is being shipped, if it's 32 or 64bits.

If there's one version that has to be discontinued that version is the 32-bit version.

Linux as well suffers with lack of 64-bit versions, it seems Mozilla started shipping them the other day (and is not very promoted)

Computers already ship with more than 4GB memory.

Leave 32-bit, it's been enough time already.

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by easytiger on Thursday November 22, 2012 @05:54AM (#4818316)
> Linux as well suffers with lack of 64-bit versions,

Only in commercial or prop software

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by davidw on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:06AM (#4818345)
When you pay for memory on a monthly basis, economizing on it may be a good idea:

http://journal.dedasys.com/2008/11/24/slicehost-vs-linode

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by raverbashing on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:24AM (#4818385)
Don't compare the Virtual Size of process. This is not how it works. And yes, running x64 on my Linode/

Also, see the limitations of MongoDB and Go for example, in 32-bit systems, they are very relevant.

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by davidw on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:51AM (#4818429)
I look at RSS in those numbers too, and they're lower on 32 bit systems, obviously, That is how it works.

I'm not interested in MongoDB in the slightest, and while Go looks pretty cool, I'll wait for it to mature.

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by raverbashing on Thursday November 22, 2012 @07:45AM (#4818543)
Sure, still, what really affects memory usage is data, not programs.

So if memory is an issue in 64-bits, most likely it will be an issue as well in 32-bit. In some cases it may make a difference, but they're not that common.

Even EC2 Micro supports 64-bits now

Sure, 64-bit uses more memory, like 32-bit use more memory than 16-bit, or like programs in ARM (and maybe Thumb) take more space than programs in x86

Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by adambyrtek on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:26AM (#4818391)
You run Firefox on a VPS?
Re:Mozilla quietly kills Firefox 64-bit for Windows by digeridoo on Thursday November 22, 2012 @06:05AM (#4818344)
Itanium is the future.