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Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by jasonlotito on Thursday April 30, 2026 @09:41AM (#47962327)
Apache 2.0 License. Did you not click the link to the project? They even list it in the article.

> Apache 2.0 across the board, so commercial use is clean.

Did you just stop when you saw open source and come post this here because you couldn't be bothered to... look at the project and see it's cleanly and clearly listed.

Edit: Like. I get it. It's fine to question open source. But this isn't hidden. It's repeated and made clear multiple times. They even link to the license: https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0

It wasn't hidden, it wasn't in some weird, out-of-the-way place. In fact, I found it so easily that I genuinely questioned whether it was real because of your comment. Like, why would anyone post what you posted if it was this easy to find?

NOPE! It was right there.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Thursday April 30, 2026 @11:11AM (#47963731)
If I give you an amd64 elf binary under Apache2 license, is it open source?
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by EagnaIonat on Thursday April 30, 2026 @12:57PM (#47965281)
Can you clarify what you mean?

If you check HF you will see its Apache2 and the datasets were also permissive.

It's one of the few models on the market where the creator indemnifies it against copyright claims.

https://research.ibm.com/blog/granite-ethical-ai

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Thursday April 30, 2026 @01:24PM (#47965616)
Oh sorry. Do we have the sources like Nvidia's Nemotron?
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by EagnaIonat on Thursday April 30, 2026 @04:02PM (#47967514)
You could have found in 5 seconds. The weights are also open sourced as well.

https://github.com/ibm-granite

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Thursday April 30, 2026 @05:05PM (#47968219)
Maybe I suck but I didn’t find that in 5 seconds. Or with more time.

I meant the full training datasets and the complete recipes to make the models.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by EagnaIonat on Friday May 01, 2026 @02:28AM (#47971811)
The training datasets are listed there and are all open source.

> the complete recipes to make the models.

You mean the weights which most companies don't release. Again you can find from that link.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Friday May 01, 2026 @04:32AM (#47972463)
Where is the list?

No I didn't mean the weights, but the source code to make the weights.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by EagnaIonat on Saturday May 02, 2026 @05:03AM (#47984705)
I'd like to assume you are not trolling and just want everything handed to you.

The granite site covers everything you keep asking for. Granite is made using lm-engine and the details are there.

Without the weights you are not going to be able to build to the same level of accuracy without some serious work.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Saturday May 02, 2026 @11:56AM (#47987499)
I want open source to stay a label for actual open source software. That means handing everything to me yes.
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by robotmaxtron on Saturday May 02, 2026 @01:06PM (#47988205)
No, it doesn't.
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by jeraldbenny on Friday May 01, 2026 @02:36AM (#47971841)
if you are googling you can find so many open source dataset. Also use kaggle, they're also having training datasets which we can use.
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Friday May 01, 2026 @04:32AM (#47972466)
I know, but that is not my point.
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by jasonlotito on Friday May 01, 2026 @10:55AM (#47975507)
You never had one. You tried to be clever and failed.
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Friday May 01, 2026 @12:45PM (#47976912)
I don’t know. Since you are perhaps clever, can you show me the training datasets and recipes so I can replicate this model locally? I have access to good HPCs.

I think it’s fair if you use a bit more than 5 seconds as someone stated above. I would gladly be proven stupid.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by EagnaIonat on Saturday May 02, 2026 @05:05AM (#47984723)
https://github.com/ibm-granite

https://huggingface.co/ibm-granite

I think if you were genuinely interested, you could have found this yourself.

Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by speedgoose on Saturday May 02, 2026 @11:55AM (#47987491)
This is not what I asked?
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by robotmaxtron on Thursday April 30, 2026 @04:26PM (#47967768)
if I can't reproduce the artifact, is it really open source?
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by postalrat on Thursday April 30, 2026 @05:51PM (#47968700)
If IBM themselves can't reproduce the artifact do they have the source?
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by robotmaxtron on Thursday April 30, 2026 @07:29PM (#47969655)
I guess not
Re:Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE by nickpsecurity on Thursday April 30, 2026 @11:13PM (#47970962)
Open source for ML is more like Allen Institute's Olmo models.

https://allenai.org/olmo

I'm just giving it as an example. I haven't looked at Granite's repos.