Re:Bugs Rust Won't Catch
by zx8080 on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @06:06AM
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Agree with the point. Asking sincerely, how to filter out installing any rust-rewrite packages on my machines? Does anyone know the way?
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Re:Bugs Rust Won't Catch
by theandrewbailey on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @07:02AM
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I'm unaware of any Rust rewrites outside of coreutils, so:
sudo apt install coreutils-from-gnu
https://computingforgeeks.com/ubuntu-2604-rust-coreutils-gui...There aren't true 1:1 clones, but there's ripgrep (inspired by GNU grep) and fd (inspired by GNU find). Those two I like, though. I think they're thoughtfully designed and in ripgrep's case at least (I just haven't read posts/comments by fd's author), it was developed with some close study of other grep implementations. I still use GNU grep and GNU find as well, but rg and fd are often nice for me.
The other nice thing about rg and fd is that they work natively on Windows.
If you don't want Canonical's packages, you should probably just be using Debian rather than Ubuntu. It's not 2008 anymore, stock Debian is quite user-friendly.
Worth noting is that in Debian experimental coreutils defaults to coreutils-from-uutils [0]. This came as a big surprise and as far as I can tell there's been no discussion. A Canonical developer seems to have unilaterally overwritten the coreutils package without discussing with the maintainer. All the package renames that are in Ubuntu aren't in Debian so you can't switch to GNU utils either without deep trickery in a separate recovery environment.
I'm used to running experimental software but I wasn't ready for my computer to not boot one day because of uutils. The `-Z` flag for `cp` wasn't implemented in the 9 month old version shipped in Debian at that time so initramfs creation failed...
that... seems newsworthy on its own merit.
Considering how Ubuntu seems to influence Debian development, this is only slightly surprising.
See: https://lists.debian.org/deity/2025/10/msg00071.html - Hard Rust requirements from May onward - by a Core Ubuntu Developer
It's in experimental only, not unstable or testing. That said I'm surprised it hasn't even caused discussion on debian-devel (sans [0]). I would've thought that at least enough Debian developers run experimental to have noticed and raise the issue, but no. I thought about starting a thread myself but couldn't be bothered.
[0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/04/msg00004.html
Re:Bugs Rust Won't Catch
by KnuthIsGod on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @07:23AM
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Or use a sane distribution like Arch or Gentoo instead of Ubuntu based systems.
You mean Arch which are currently rewriting their package infrastructure in Rust?
Re:Bugs Rust Won't Catch
by dapperdrake on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @12:39PM
(#47950833)
Alpine Linux has a better shot at acceptable compile times.
Some FOSS software seems to maximize kernel IO last time I had a Gentoo.