Nobody on the GrapheneOS team is paranoid.

“I’m not paranoid! Why? What have you heard?!??!????”

(I’m aware I’m interacting with a sock account that only indulges in defenses of GrapheneOS on HN and im being facetious.)

Every once in awhile there’s a group or a project that was just asking to be burned down with everyone inside, I wasn’t there so…

I’m a grapheneOS user and I kind of find the guys public melties entertaining.

I gathered you were being facetious, but I do not appreciate being called a sockpuppet.

I am a GOS community member and I have been for several years. I am active in the GrapheneOS chatrooms, and I choose to volunteer my time assisting others.

Eh, just tell your truth as you know it and don’t get too caught up on what people make of it.

I get to be “entertained” because it’s not my first day on the internet, nor involved in a project or page that’s come with death threats doxing , ddosing, vendettas, vindictiveness, mutually assured destruction and or prolonged public outrage.

Maybe someone wants a broom or has some magical thinking that they’re going to profit off someone’s work. In my case, they stole everything I wrote and went “we don’t need you now.” And oh look, they failed.

That’s just how fucking people are in this society anymore. That part isn’t funny.

So it’s that kind of (unfortunately) knowing chuckle.

If you guys over at GoS insist on putting on a messy public spectacle, fine, but if you’re telling me how to react to it? Get bent lol.

I must emphasise I am not associated with GrapheneOS.

How do you know?

Ive seen the attacks in real time, and spoken to devs before. Its not a mental problem, there are really just that many attacks.

Its really sad to see, so I try to help where I can.

Just read the article again and I'd suggest also reading responses we sent to fact checkers (many answers didn't even show up in the article). James' side of the story is riddled with lies. So, if you read the article with that in mind, you can see that Copperhead got steered in the wrong direction by James. Daniel has been the owner of the open source project from the beginning and Copperhead was never in control of it. It was right to move forward without James. Nothing paranoid about that. It's more a move by someone who is dedicated to doing things right.

See the attacks on GrapheneOS and even other privacy projects trying to make them look like they are designed for criminals. Even French law enforcement took part. We have shared these details publicly and even with links to articles with quotes. There was even news about authorities in Spain assuming anyone with a Pixel was likely a criminal.

Months ago, we saw tons of reports of organizations reporting hacking GrapheneOS without any evidence or links to court cases. We never claim that GrapheneOS isn't hackable, but we still haven't seen any credible evidence showing forensics companies were able to hack it.

These are just a few examples of how GrapheneOS is being attacked. Again, we're not the only ones.

It's also important to note that GrapheneOS has many project members. GrapheneOS isn't a one man show.

Our responses to these things are not out of paranoia. We want our users to know what's going on, so we keep them informed. What's wrong with that?

Both can be true: GrapheneOS could be under scrutiny because unrelated criminals use GOS devices and Daniel's claims about James and Copperhead are unfounded (I haven't seen receipts and I've been waiting since 2021).

I'm sure it's exhausting producing an awesome product, only to get crapped on by governments and corporations that hate privacy and drama-farming Twitter randos, but debunking bad-faith bullshit is nothing if not rational in a world where reputation matters.

Even here, the same people come out of the woodwork every single time to hit the same bad-faith talking points. I've got a lot of respect for the whole team for doing what they do despite all of it.

I spent several minutes looking into it earlier today because I'd mostly ignored it in the past, but his claims appear completely valid, and if anything, stop short of painting a sufficient picture of how badly he's harassed. I won't link to any of it here, but it took me one query and reading one page worth of it to think Micay is the most reasonable actor in the story.

When you have years-long, public forum threads dedicated to doxing you with people openly calling for your physical harm, all supported a YouTuber with millions of subscribers, let us know if it still seems like paranoia to you.