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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by wavemode on Monday April 20, 2026 @08:52PM (#47843225)
An easy counterargument is that - there are millions of species and an uncountable number of organisms on Earth, yet humans are the only known intelligent ones. (In fact high intelligence is the only trait humans have that no other organism has.) That could perhaps indicate that intelligence is a bit harder to "find" than you're claiming.
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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by SAI_Peregrinus on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @09:22AM (#47848449)
That humans are the only known intelligent ones is a very dubious statement. The most intelligent, sure, but several species of birds, great apes, and cetaceans all display significant intelligence.
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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by ben_w on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @12:16PM (#47850890)
> The most intelligent, sure, but several species of birds, great apes, and cetaceans all display significant intelligence.

Relative to all non-humans.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone can get a dog to (technically) pass a GCSE (British highschool) exam (not full subject just exam) for a language other than English, because one learned a thousand words and that might just technically be enough fot a British student to pass a French GCSE listening test.

But nobody sane ever hired a non human animal to solve a problem that humans consider intellectually challenging.

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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by nextaccountic on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @02:51PM (#47852869)
> If someone is reducing intelligence to a boolean, the threshold can of course go anywhere.

Indeed, it would be very surprising if multiple species had exactly the same intelligence. It's more likely there this variable samples some distribution. Of course the species at the top can set the threshold so that all other species don't meet it, if they feel like declaring themselves uniquely intelligent. But that's not very useful.

> Driving is still an example of a case where humans hold the peak performance.

Other great apes can drive too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ_0ImDYrPY

I think it's very hard to look at this video and not recognize that orangutans are intelligent

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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by ben_w on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @03:22PM (#47853315)
> Other great apes can drive too.

As can dogs. However, I said "peak".

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Re:Even 'uncensored' models can't say what they want by nextaccountic on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @08:33PM (#47856995)
I supposed you were comparing humans with machines
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