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Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by michaelhoffman on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @01:06AM (#4776705)
Do people within Microsoft really consider Microsoft Research to be a drain on company resources as implied by a couple of those comments?
Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by volandovengo on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @02:00AM (#4776814)
Microsoft research produces some amazing gems. They are a case study for what good things can happen when you let 2 or 3 really smart geeks works on problems which have yet to be solved.

Unfortunately, MS research is pretty disconnected from the product teams and as a result, they tend to innovate in a vacuum. As a result very rarely are their innovations integrated into the products. They therefore come off as a drain on the company.

Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by s_henry_paulson on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @06:31AM (#4777437)
Or some of the products are so advanced that the the product teams won't deal with the fruits of the research for many years.

I remember being excited about Microsoft's SenseCam just a little under 10 years ago. 4-5 years later I thought the product would never be available to consumers, and lo and behold, it's finally become technology that is available to the public... but man did that take a long time.

Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by kevin_morrill on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @01:34AM (#4776751)
I did when I worked there. The return on investment relative to what the product groups were creating was off the charts. I was all for taking the money and talent to think about long term issues, but it was just distasteful how poorly value was captured from it.
Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by CamperBob2 on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @03:25AM (#4777018)
It's no secret that the idea behind Microsoft Research is to keep the talent from working anywhere else. They don't have to ship a darned thing, as long as Google, Apple, or Sun don't either.
Re:A Microsoft Without Sinofsky? by meaty on Tuesday November 13, 2012 @03:37AM (#4777055)
I got that impression during an interview with them in Cambridge in 2005. They genuinely couldn't promise that anything that was done was going to end up in a product or would actually be used.

Fortunately I was too crap to be considered a threat if I wasn't hired :)