Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by neobrain on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:12PM
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The article is specifically not referring to information that's sent to Apple servers - it's about information on the phone only, accessible through forensics tools with physical device access.
Signal's server-side push notifications only contain a "wakeup" message. The actual message popup is displayed after decrypting the message contents locally on the device. Of the things you mentioned, only the time of notification is visible to Apple/Google.
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by traderj0e on Thursday April 09, 2026 @06:41PM
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Fun fact, apps can't wake from APNS if the user killed the app (swipe up) last time instead of switching away normally. Apple publicly said something contrary to this at one point, so it might be surprising that Signal can work this way. The notification itself will still come through outside the app, so I wonder what you see, probably some placeholder text?
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by intuxikated on Friday April 10, 2026 @02:00AM
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Yes there's a placeholder in that scenario
Something like 'new message available' if I remember correctly (I'm no longer on iPhone, so can't verify)
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by wahern on Thursday April 09, 2026 @02:56PM
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If you run your own XMPP server, like Prosody, this issue is readily apparent. See, e.g., the options push_notification_with_body and push_notification_with_sender for https://modules.prosody.im/mod_cloud_notify
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by tracker1 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @01:26PM
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Ironically, I've got most notifications disabled because I simply find them annoying. I think SMS, phone calls and my CGM are the only things that cause my phone to regularly make noise.
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by skydv2 on Friday April 10, 2026 @02:17AM
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You're thread-sliding, friend, and trying to diminish the major blow-up here. ALL notifications from banks, WhatsApp, Telegram you name it are stored indefinitely, and anyone with physical access to the phone and a cable can extract your entire history. This is NOT the same as them being stored at Apple or the NSA. Any shithead with a cable can do it.
Re:FBI Extracted Deleted Signal Messages Saved in iPhone Not...
by greentea23 on Friday April 10, 2026 @10:00AM
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*Google notifications, not all Android. Unified Push combined with a degoogled ROM works great to have convenience and security.
Also standard requirement on govt mobile devices to disable notifications. Mattermost provides this option at the server level to block notifications entirely for ios/android devices.