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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @03:13AM (#47686450)
Sorry but US has created this b roll since the 50s.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:19AM (#47687515)
The US creates "death to America" b-roll?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by vrganj on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:27AM (#47687599)
The US creates "Red Menace", "Terrorist", "Axis of Evil" or "whatever the imperialist excuse of the day" b-roll.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:54AM (#47687874)
So you think "Death to America" and "Death to terrorists and evil" are the same? Do you think saying "criminals should be punished" is similarly wrong to say? Honest question, as I'm confused about your moral boundaries.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by vrganj on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:23AM (#47688113)
To the Iranians, America is "The Great Satan".

To the Americans, Iranians are "Terrorists".

To a bystander they're both deranged warmongers using transparent excuses.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:27AM (#47688144)
There is plenty of evidence Iran funds terrorism. I don't know of any evidence that Americans are biblical monsters, but I'm open to new information.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by vrganj on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:54AM (#47688397)
"Terrorism" is inherently a subjective, ideological label, just a vaguely threatening name for the Big Other. A classic in the genre, along with "Red Menace", "Yellow Peril", "Rogue State" etc etc.

The Iranian version of this propaganda technique is the "Great Satan".

They're all just big scary terms to throw around and justify ones deeds.

To the Iranians, the Americans are the terrorists blowing up their bridges. Now what?

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:27AM (#47688721)
> "Terrorism" is inherently a subjective, ideological label

If the US started calling Iran "Satan" would you see that as an escalation of rhetoric, or business as usual?

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by vrganj on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:39AM (#47688803)
Business as usual. It's all just scary terms to dehumanize. No different from "Yellow Peril".
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:52AM (#47688921)
Fair enough. If you think terrorist and satan have equal grounding in reality then we'll just have to chalk the disagreement up to a difference in priors.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:04AM (#47688521)
Terrorism or resistance against western imperialism and colonization?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:23AM (#47688698)
That is a question one could ask. A little beyond me to answer.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:55AM (#47688415)
Do you also believe that 9/11 happened because they hate your freedom?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:42AM (#47688825)
No, I think that had a lot to do with post WW2 imperialism in the middle east, along with religious motivations.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:01PM (#47692039)
>The US creates "death to America" b-roll?

>No, I think that had a lot to do with post WW2 imperialism in the middle east, along with religious motivations.

And these are not related?

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @02:53PM (#47694598)
How can a thing that doesn't exist relate to history?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @03:26PM (#47695063)
So 9/11 happened due to US imperialism. And there's no incident ever in Iran related to US imperialism?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @04:00PM (#47695525)
> So 9/11 happened due to US imperialism.

I said that was part of the reason, not all of it.

> And there's no incident ever in Iran related to US imperialism?

I'm not sure what you're asking or why. There have probably been things that have happened inside Iran due to US imperialism. Not sure how that relates to the idea of the US creating self-deprecating propaganda?

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by Hikikomori on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:49PM (#47697233)
Their actions create it?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by BobbyJo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @09:09PM (#47698177)
The US's actions caused the US to create anti-US propaganda? I'm getting lost here.