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Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by zanny on Friday November 09, 2012 @09:08AM (#4762815)
One problem with defaults is that if you put, say, a modern version of Unity on a live cd, and try running it in some system with a really crummy integrated GPU, you will have a completely unresponsive experience because hardware acceleration isn't on.

Starting with something light and making eye candy available as an option sounds better than having extreme eye candy (gnome3, kde, Unity) and having to endure extreme slowness to get to lxde or openbox.

Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by jlarocco on Friday November 09, 2012 @11:35AM (#4763525)
That's true, but it's a completely different thing. This isn't about a LiveCD, it's about the regular installer.

I don't see why people are making a big deal out of the change. The net installer already has an option to choose between LXDE, Gnome, KDE, and XFCE. I'd suspect anybody installing Debian themselves and who has a preference would know how to change between them.

That said, it wouldn't hurt to make the option could be a little easier to find.

Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by rdtsc on Friday November 09, 2012 @10:00AM (#4763040)
Make both install-able and working and pick automatically at install time?

When running on old hardware offer something light (all the way down to text, say for mainframes).

Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by zanny on Friday November 09, 2012 @10:19AM (#4763144)
This actually happens with the netinstall of Fedora, and I imagine you can do it with the netinstall of Debian as well.
Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by slurgfest on Friday November 09, 2012 @12:58PM (#4763918)
Having to endure extreme slowness? Why not: Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, then apt-get install lxde? (or lubuntu-desktop depending on what you are using)
Re:Xfce not default in future release of Debian by antidoh on Saturday November 10, 2012 @08:20AM (#4766587)
Yes. All you see are the windows of things you're working on, and a panel (or two). If you autohide the panel, then all you see is what you're working on.

After using lxde (lubuntu) for about six months, the Windows desktops and the fancier Linux desktops now look like the red light district with prostitutes on display in flashing light-lined windows.