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Re:Jewish Problems by htf on Thursday November 08, 2012 @09:21PM (#4760939)
> Affirmative action is not the same thing as making it artificially harder for a discriminated minority!

It is practically the same. When it comes to limited entrance, you can't make it easier for a certain group without making it harder for the rest.

Re:Jewish Problems by davidkatz on Thursday November 08, 2012 @09:33PM (#4760969)
Principally yes, but I'd disagree on essence.

Say you have a minority that's 1% of the population, and unhindered it would also make up 1% of enrollments.

If you don't allow that minority to enroll, you're increasing the acceptance chance of a majority group member by just over 1%, while decreasing the acceptance chance of the minority member by 100%.

The correct way to describe this is then most definitely discrimination against the minority, and not affirmative action for the majority.

Re:Jewish Problems by smm2000 on Thursday November 08, 2012 @10:21PM (#4761095)
Actually Jews were about 1% of Soviet Union population and 5%-10% of University students. If Jews were only 1% of student population it would not be an issue. I went to mathematical magnet school (best math school in 5M+ city) and easily 30%-50% of students had Jewish roots.

Essentially it was more difficult for Jews to get into university, neutral for Russians, easier for Tatars and some other minorities and extremely easy for what's called Northern Minorities (they had - and still have special quotas, no exams necessary)

Speaking as 1/4 Russian-Jewish, 1/4 Chuvash, 1/8 Latvian and 1/rest Russian.

Re:Jewish Problems by davidkatz on Sunday November 11, 2012 @11:46AM (#4769864)
Thanks. I assumed that Jews would be overrepresented amongst students, but opted for making a more general point.