I don't see a reasonable way to avoid parents imposing their beliefs on their kids so this point you're trying to make is pretty weak man. You're comparing a problem with a very clear solution vs a problem with no clear solution. You wanna take the kids away from all religious people and all people with differing political views? Good luck with that.

Should all parents submit to frequent breathalyzers? Tell me, how many parents, as a fraction of all parents, drink irresponsibly to the point where it significantly endangers their children?

Now compare that number to the fraction of parents who drive their kids around in cars. I think if you rub your two brain cells really hard together you might realize how dumb you make yourself seem with this comment. You're grasping at straws comparing apples and oranges.

>Tell me, how many parents, as a fraction of all parents, drink irresponsibly to the point where it significantly endangers their children?

More than the ones that get harmed between 8 and 12 in cars.

Your whole argument seems to be “it would be okay to take kids from their parents if the enforcement was easy”. It’s clear that you’re in the camp of sacrificing pretty much any liberty in the name of safety.

Holy crap lol, in what universe is that my argument? That was my response to your posed problem. You suggested that it was bad that parents indoctrinate their children - I didn't say we should take their children away I pointed out that taking their children away is the only way to stop them from indoctrinating them. I made it extremely clear that I did not consider this a viable option lol.

Holy crap man how braindead are you? I'm out of this conversation there's clearly no point talking to you. Wow.