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Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by bee_rider on Sunday March 29, 2026 @05:16PM (#47567410)
You’d think that, but it sees like big business and governments are treating inference as somehow special. I dunno, maybe low temperatures can highlight this weird situation?

Temperature is an easy knob to twist, after all. Somebody (not me I’m too poor to pay the lawyers) should do a search and find where the crime starts.

Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by Retr0id on Sunday March 29, 2026 @05:17PM (#47567425)
What does temperature have to do with anything?
Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by bee_rider on Sunday March 29, 2026 @06:09PM (#47567922)
Or however deterministic inference is supposed to happen. I don’t know LLMs.
Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by janwirth on Sunday March 29, 2026 @09:57PM (#47569574)
Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by mpalmer on Sunday March 29, 2026 @05:23PM (#47567482)
Well, it's still not deterministic even at temp 0. The tech described in my comment's parent is speculative, and technically it's not even inference, once it's perfectly reproducible.

At that point it's retrieving results from a database.

EDIT: how would OP address my main point, which is that det. inference is functionally equivalent to any arbitrary keyed data storage/retrieval system?

Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by Retr0id on Sunday March 29, 2026 @05:24PM (#47567494)
Deterministic inference isn't speculative, it's achievable if you want it. It's just not the default.
Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by janwirth on Sunday March 29, 2026 @09:59PM (#47569586)
It seems the TL:DR is race conditions, rounding and other RTE specific factors.
Re:Show HN: I made a "programming language" looking for feed... by nextaccountic on Sunday March 29, 2026 @08:23PM (#47568966)
> The tech described in my comment's parent is speculative, and technically it's not even inference, once it's perfectly reproducible.

This is not true. Fabrice Bellard's ts_zip [0] and ts_sms [1] uses a LLM to compress text. It beats stuff like .xz etc but of course is much slower. Now.. if it were non-deterministic, you would have trouble decompressing exactly into what it compressed. So, it uses a deterministic LLM

[0] https://bellard.org/ts_zip/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37152978

[1] https://bellard.org/ts_sms/ https://lobste.rs/s/5srkwz/fabrice_bellard_s_ts_sms_short_me... (funny enough many people comment that, if it uses LLM, it must be lossy. This is not the case. It's compared to xz in the page because it's lossless)