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Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ahhhhnoooo on Friday March 27, 2026 @10:57AM (#47543414)
The "tacking social expectations on top" is the part that is gender!

There's no biological foundation for wearing a sari, hijab, miniskirt, etc. Those are social expectations for women, or part of the role women fill in society.

It's a wholly different concept than biological sex. My penis does not make it impossible to wear eyeliner. But society has a social expectation that I do not. It's not a sex characteristic, it's a gender characteristic.

You might believe gender is immutable. I'm not going to argue that with you. But denying the idea that humans have both characteristics derived from biology (sex) and from societal expectations (gender) is simply objectively incorrect.

Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ragall on Friday March 27, 2026 @11:05AM (#47543528)
> It's not a sex characteristic, it's a gender characteristic.

They're one and the same.

> But denying the idea that humans have both characteristics derived from biology (sex) and from societal expectations (gender) is simply objectively incorrect.

I don't deny the existence of social expectations (you severely misread what I wrote), but those expectations were deriving from the recognition of the objective truth of one's sex. They were never a matter of one's "internal feelings", they were an extension of one's sex.

Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by s1artibartfast on Friday March 27, 2026 @02:50PM (#47546721)
What does "being the same" mean to you. A thought or expectation is not a chromosome.

Gender having been derived from real sex historically and even predominantly today does not stop some people from redefining it otherwise.

Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ragall on Friday March 27, 2026 @04:20PM (#47547716)
Things that are dependent on each other are, essentially, the same thing.

People can try to redefine whatever they please as long as the rest of society can point out the silliness of it.

Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by s1artibartfast on Friday March 27, 2026 @06:19PM (#47549126)
So you dont think actions and signals can mean different things to different people?

A dress or lipstick might mean there is also a vagina to one person, but not another person.

This is a testable prediction. One where the correct answer depends on what people are actually doing.

If you think a dress means vaginas and people stop doing that, you simply become wrong.

Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ragall on Saturday March 28, 2026 @12:45AM (#47551716)
Now that's just silly.
Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ahhhhnoooo on Saturday March 28, 2026 @10:52AM (#47555121)
What? Wearing skirts depends on one's biological sex? Explain how. Because that doesn't seem to follow up me at all.
Re:Olympic Committee Announces a Broad Ban of Transgender At... by ahhhhnoooo on Friday March 27, 2026 @09:40PM (#47550658)
So, skirt wearing has a biological component?

We didn't just make it all up as a society?

Cause I'm pretty sure it's a social construct.

If it is a social construct, then people can elect not to accept that construct....