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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by gzread on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:34PM (#47511113)
Is it illegal or is it just illegal on general purpose platforms whose focus isn't extreme security?

We all know Meta can still read E2EE chats (otherwise they wouldn't do it) and they're using E2EE as an excuse to avoid liability for the things their platform encourages. Contrast this with something like Signal where the entire point is to be secure.

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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by cristoperb on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:35PM (#47511129)
> We all know Meta can still read E2EE chats

That can't be true, otherwise in what sense is it E2EE?

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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by gzread on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:37PM (#47511139)
In the sense that calling it E2EE gives people a warm fuzzy feeling and makes people send more sensitive information over the platform.

Has anyone actually audited it?

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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by babelfish on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:43PM (#47511194)
Probably their auditors? Lying about this would be tantamount to (very serious) securities fraud. Not sure what you're basing on your allegations on besides "trust me bro"
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by gzread on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @11:53AM (#47519068)
Why would lying about having E2EE be securities (as in stock market) fraud? Would that make any lie ever told by a corporation equate to stock market fraud?
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by babelfish on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @12:02PM (#47519223)
Yes! As Matt Levine says, “everything is securities fraud”
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by gzread on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @07:01PM (#47524426)
So if Microsoft tells me upgrading to windows 11 will make my computer better, you think that's securities fraud?
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by babelfish on Thursday March 26, 2026 @12:15PM (#47532354)
Did I say that?
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by gzread on Thursday March 26, 2026 @04:15PM (#47535154)
Yes. You said everything is securities fraud
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by interestpiqued on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:38PM (#47511150)
I mean you can read it in your app and they're not just stored on your phone. E2E just means in transport from what I understand.
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by SAI_Peregrinus on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:42PM (#47511182)
E2EE means end-to-end, where the ends are the participants in the chat. They can read it on your phone, but not on their servers. They need their app to separately transmit the plaintext to their servers to read it.
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by throwaway173738 on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:49PM (#47511242)
Which is technically possible.
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by interestpiqued on Thursday March 26, 2026 @01:21PM (#47533159)
So literally what I was implying
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by duskdozer on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @03:03AM (#47514199)
Well, I've seen services describe having "E2EE" where one end is your computer and the other end is their server, so...
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by vaylian on Wednesday March 25, 2026 @03:12AM (#47514251)
The metadata is still unencrypted. That also reveals quite a bit.
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Re:Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploita... by markdown on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:42PM (#47511177)
The first two E's in E2EE stand for end. From one end to the other. So no, Meta can't. Or put another way... if they can read those messages, then it's not E2EE.
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