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Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by ryanwaggoner on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @04:30PM (#4750890)
Voting isn't mandatory and the population is apathetic;

Optional voting is a feature, not a bug. It ensures that the people who care most wield the most influence. If they collectively take the rest of the (apathetic) population astray, more people will start to care and swing the country in a different direction. There's a term for this kind of self-correcting system, but it escapes me right now.

Regardless, changing to mandatory voting would do absolutely nothing to solve voter apathy. It could theoretically have the opposite effect, as now the people who care deeply have less influence because their votes are watered down by people who only vote to avoid a fine.

Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by jsankey on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @07:07PM (#4751545)
In Australia we have "mandatory" voting. But actually it is only mandatory that you turn up -- you can deliberately vote "informal" if you don't actually want to cast a vote, and many people do just that (5.5% in the last federal election, although probably more like 2.5-3% of these are deliberate refusals to vote).

This is my preferred system. To me, you don't want to absolute force people to vote. But you do want to remove the bias that exists because turning out to vote is easier for some people than others (and it tends to be easier for the more privileged). Other factors help too: e.g. polling is on the weekend.

Re: apathy, the solution is not to ignore the disenfranchised, but to engage them. True representation is not about suiting those with the most free time and energy.

Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by narcissus on Wednesday November 07, 2012 @09:12AM (#4753416)
Dare I also say that with the 'mandatory voting', growing up I felt as though people were more engaged in politics... including children.

Because they had to 'vote' (maybe "because they had to voice an opinion one way or another") people seemed to be more likely to take an interest in politics and actually learn about what was actually going on.

That's the way I see it, at least: people in Australia seemed to be more knowledgeable about politics than people seem to be here in Canada at least.

Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by daemin on Wednesday November 07, 2012 @12:36AM (#4752308)
As a former manager of mine said (paraphrasing): having to vote once every several years is a small inconvenience to endure for getting to live in such a well off country.
Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by juddlyon on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @05:37PM (#4751205)
I like that it's optional, but it would be cool if the US made election day a holiday as a way to increase turnout a bit. Everybody is distracted anyhow.
Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by jholman on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @07:53PM (#4751673)
If you make it a holiday, people will go on holiday.

Instead, require employers to give their employees 3 hours off during the day, or something like that.

O Canada! http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=faq...

Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by ryanwaggoner on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @06:14PM (#4751353)
I do agree that doing voting on a regular workday doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by lifeformed on Wednesday November 07, 2012 @10:06AM (#4753596)
If I would get an extra day off work, I'd do an early ballot and use that day as a holiday.
Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by nitrogen on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @07:10PM (#4751556)
Don't confuse apathy with powerlessness and disenfranchisement, and don't assume that being motivated means being right.
Re:Sergey Brin Calls On Politicians To Abandon Political Par... by Tobu on Tuesday November 06, 2012 @06:48PM (#4751472)
Mandatory voting cuts both ways. It would require fixing the many things that prevent people from voting in the USA: making the day a holiday, fixing voter registration, getting enough manpower that the wait is reasonable everywhere, for starters.