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Re:No-build, no-NPM, SSR-first JavaScript framework if you h... by mpalmer on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:53AM (#47501323)
> Rather than passive-aggressively insulting my intelligence

I did no such thing. In fact I expressed my understanding of why you prefer your methods. I was hoping you would be willing to consider why declarative, composable UI patterns are worthwhile. Instead you substitute a deep topic for "React".

Have a good one, I have no intention of getting into a technical discussion with someone whose first reaction is to jump down people's throats.

Re:No-build, no-NPM, SSR-first JavaScript framework if you h... by spoiler on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @08:15AM (#47501522)
No horse in this race, but your phrasing seems a bit weird, honestly... If reduced, your comments read as:

"You don't know about X? Well, at least I know about X and Y..." Doesn't seemed like a good faith comment to me either?

And then you say "You misunderstood my intentions so I'm going to disengage". For what it's worth, I didn't interpret your argument as insulting someone, but also it wasn't a useful or productive comment either.

What did you hope to achieve with your comments? Was it simply to state how you know something the other person doesn't? What purpose do you think that serves here?

Re:No-build, no-NPM, SSR-first JavaScript framework if you h... by applfanboysbgon on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @07:55AM (#47501347)
I guess I misinterpreted your comment? I do apologise if that's the case. I certainly didn't intend to "jump down your throat", I was asking you to explain your comment further because I don't understand what you're getting at.
Re:No-build, no-NPM, SSR-first JavaScript framework if you h... by mpalmer on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @08:21AM (#47501583)
To be perfectly fair, you accused me of insulting you and said you "loathe" a word which I thought was a fairly inert term of art. Would you believe I didn't actually notice that you wanted me to say more? :) More than happy to give the benefit of the doubt though, the shoe's been on the other foot for me more than once.

For my part, I also loathe the insensate writhing mass of frameworks, patterns and dependencies that is "modern" frontend development. Where you and I differ is I recognize a handful of extremely good ideas hidden in the morass. But I am perfectly happy dismissing the majority of it; if nothing else, you shouldn't come away thinking of me as a React fanboy.

Writing is a lossy medium for thought, and programming is no exception. I'd say at a minimum that you and I are on the side of programmers whose code is a medium for their own thought.

All of these choices really just comes down to cognitive bandwidth, context, domain, taste, any number of things, really. Which is what was behind my first (admittedly terse, slightly salty) comment.

What I condemn is someone who opts out of making choices for themselves in their software. Web dev just happens to have an unfortunately high concentration of this sort of thoughtlessness.