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Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by 47282847 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @03:22AM (#47475240)
One side publishes words, the other DDoSes. One side could just ignore the other and go about their business, the other cannot. One is using force, which naturally leads to resistance and additional attention, the other is not.

Both sides look like they have been bullied in the past and not found their way out of reproducing the pattern yet.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by JasonADrury on Sunday March 22, 2026 @03:55AM (#47475363)
SF, DS, KF all only publish words. Presidents use words to direct planes to drop bombs on schools full of little girls.

It's deliberately obtuse to suggest that "words" aren't a big deal.

>One is using force, which naturally leads to resistance and additional attention, the other is not.

I'd say attempting to dox someone and then spreading that information is deploying far more significant force than a minor lazy DDoS attack.

Doxing or attempting to dox someone is effectively threatening them with physical violence. A DDoS is nothing at all in comparison.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by 47282847 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @01:10PM (#47479671)
Words can have influence and can come from a place of authority, which does carry responsibility. Words of a president are very different from words published on a random blog by some random person, and different yet again from words published by a newspaper. Some presidents words are opinion, the same words in different context are commands and not acting on them comes at a price.

Context matters. Which is why also different rules apply, and laws exist to guard these rules. DDoS is not an acceptable response in any jurisdiction, no matter what triggered them. We’re not in the Middle Ages, even if some behave like we are. Violence does not justify violence. Unjust action does not justify unjust responses.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by pschastain on Monday March 23, 2026 @03:32AM (#47486421)
>DDoS is not an acceptable response in any jurisdiction

Who the fuck cares about what the law says? Seriously. The service archive.today offers is illegal in any case.

This is just a fundamentally bizarre context to be bringing up the law in.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by 47282847 on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @03:44AM (#47499652)
Ah yes I can see the misunderstanding: I meant “acceptable” in a broader sense than just legally, but I can see how the use of “jurisdiction” implies law. It was not my intention to just reference the legality, but more in terms of what is considered “violence” by the society, where law is one level you can look at to get an idea.

Then, again: one persons illegal actions do not warrant another persons illegal actions. That’s not how society works, and not how law works.

Re:Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer... by croes on Sunday March 22, 2026 @03:47AM (#47475331)
Words can have bad consequences. We‘ll see what will happen to Banksy after Reuters published words.