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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by komali2 on Wednesday March 18, 2026 @10:52PM (#47434306)
It seems to me that the market will select for urban sprawl though which is a negative for society but has the highest margin. E.g. Houston suburbs, miles and miles of cheap to fab single family homes that turn it into a suburban hell scape where you have to drive everywhere.

I don't think the free market is giving the promises you say it is - supply isn't elastic for real estate if nobody's building because there's no margins. Demand can be anywhere really.

I like to look to Tokyo for an example. Small lots, extremely predictable regulations (that are still strict enough to ensure a safe living situation), fast approvals, mean it's much faster and easier to throw up an 8-10 story apartment than say downtown Austin, and so even today they keep doing it despite land in Tokyo being very expensive. And, no sprawl.

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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by austhrow743 on Wednesday March 18, 2026 @11:39PM (#47434619)
Why are you accrediting Houston to the free market rather than Tokyo?
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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by komali2 on Wednesday March 18, 2026 @11:56PM (#47434744)
Houston doesn't have zoning laws, Tokyo does.

Generally speaking, freer markets seem to lead to worse outcomes overall.

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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by taormina on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:20AM (#47434899)
Have you seen Tokyo?
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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by komali2 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:44AM (#47435047)
I've lived in Tokyo and Houston. Tokyo is infinitely more livable and the housing is still relatively affordable. In Houston even if you can get a new place it'll be clapboard garbage that's a one and a half hour drive from work.
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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by hunterpayne on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:22AM (#47435278)
Average home price in Tokyo is 1.5x that of Houston. Average wage in Houston is 1.5x that of Tokyo. So the data doesn't support your post unless you really really love sushi and arcades.
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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by seanmcdirmid on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:24AM (#47434916)
They can throw up 8-10 story apartments in Tokyo despite land being very expensive because they tear them down and rebuild them after 20-30 years. Also, Tokyo outside of a few areas isn't that tall, it is definitely dense, but 3-4 story tall building dense (those homes are also torn down and built anew ever 20-30 years, so construction buzzes in Tokyo).

It would be better if you considered new actual living capacity in Tokyo rather than just new constructions.

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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by bandofthehawk on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:08AM (#47439750)
I believe the market in the US selects for urban sprawl because it's usually subsidized by the dense urban core. Suburban areas often don't generate enough tax revenue to support their own infrastructure and services.
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