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Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by CamperBob2 on Saturday November 03, 2012 @08:02PM (#4738343)
I'd just like the roads to be safer. People who break traffic laws are effectively risking your life. That's not cool.

If you want the roads to be safer, lobby your public officials for the implementation of 85th-percentile speed limits.

There is absolutely zero evidence that enforcement of artificially-low highway speed limits makes anyone safer.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by Pwnguinz on Saturday November 03, 2012 @08:22PM (#4738391)
Indeed. Link to a site that details the 85th-percentile speed limit in a logical fashion: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/speedlimits.html

(Disclaimer: The site links to a study done in British Columbia, Canada and I'm from British Columbia, Canada :)).

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by GuiA on Saturday November 03, 2012 @09:37PM (#4738581)
He cites speeding as one of his examples, and I agree with you; but he presents other examples that are very valid, and I think his point stands.

Last night, I was driving with my girlfriend in SF, and we made a left turn onto the leftmost lane of a 3 lane street (19th Ave). Someone from the other side made a right turn onto the same street, but moved from the rightmost lane they were supposed to go in to the leftmost lane. (picture=1000 words: http://i.imgur.com/1cyok.jpg . We were the red arrow, they were the blue/gray arrow)

We came within centimeters of a collision for something really dumb because this guy wasn't paying attention/was a poor driver/etc.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by refurb on Sunday November 04, 2012 @01:09AM (#4739017)
This probably needs to be confirmed, but I don't think that's illegal in California.

After moving here 2 years ago, I had to study for the driver's license written test and I remember being shocked at reading "when turning at an intersection, if you are in the only turning lane, you may enter into any of the lanes during your turn".

So I'm imagining that if you both had green lights, since you were turning left, he had the right of way (not saying his actions weren't stupid by the way).

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by aclimatt on Sunday November 04, 2012 @01:53AM (#4739165)
No, that's illegal and he was in the wrong.

> 2. Right turn. Begin and end the turn in the lane nearest the righthand curb. Do not swing wide into another lane of traffic.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/turns.htm

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by refurb on Sunday November 04, 2012 @12:36PM (#4740311)
I stand corrected!

Maybe I'm remembering the rules of left turns? As long as there was only one left turning lane (and you had the left turn arrow), you could turn into any of the new lanes (not just the left most lane).

Combine that with people who turn right into other-than-the-right-most-lane, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by GuiA on Sunday November 04, 2012 @01:11AM (#4739113)
(yeah we both had green lights)

Ha, the more you know. I have an out-of-state license, and learned how to drive in Europe, where this would definitely not be legal. Guess I should move my butt to a local DMV and get a local license and learn the local quirks.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by praptak on Sunday November 04, 2012 @03:01AM (#4739236)
> learned how to drive in Europe, where this would definitely not be legal.

I'm not sure about that. In Poland there is definitely no law against turning right into the left lane. On the other hand most intersections where this would be possible have either road markings that prohibit this or traffic lights set up so that left turners and right turners never enter the lane at the same time. This is also the reason why it is forbidden to U-turn when the lights show the green left arrow - you could collide with a right turner.

I'm also about 75% certain there is no such law in Germany but my German is too rusty to dig through their traffic laws :)

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by malandrew on Sunday November 04, 2012 @10:00PM (#4742064)
I just changed my license from NC to CA and I was shocked by one of the questions on the test. It basically said "When is it legal to enter the bike lane?" There were three options, two of which were: "Within 200 ft of turning right" and "When there are no bikes present"

I put the answer "when there are no bikes present," which as a bicyclist makes a lot of sense. The correct answer was "within 200 ft of turning right," which is complete and utter bullshit because I got hit by a car less than two weeks prior that entered the bicycle lane to turn right without signaling.

If I could get cars ticketed by taking video of violations I would buy a GoPro camera tomorrow.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by jamesbritt on Saturday November 03, 2012 @11:04PM (#4738775)
Did they honk at you because you were in their lane? :)

That's what I get in Scottsdale. You just have to assume here that every driver feels entitled and doesn't give a fuck. Whatever is the shortest or fastest path is their birthright.

Re:Little Brother is watching: San Francisco PD relying on c... by greggman on Monday November 12, 2012 @11:32AM (#4773459)
I have no problem if they want to raise the speed limit. I have a big problem if people are passing me 15mph faster than the speed limit. That is not safe. I can speed up but it's against the law and I know people that have speeding tickets for going over 50 in the area in question. 1 ticket = $1000 ($100 for the ticket, $300 a year in increased insurance premiums for 3 years until the point disappears). 2 tickets = $3000. 3 tickets = $7000. 4 tickets = loss of license.

So if you want to go faster lobby for faster speed limits. In the mean slow the F down!