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Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by hananova on Friday March 13, 2026 @08:50PM (#47372070)
Sales are artificial boosts yes. The difference is in the connotation. A sale is given for something that people generally would buy anyway, but now more people will. An artificial boost is given to stuff nobody wants, but at a lower price can be convinced to buy.

Or in other words, sales raise $high_number to $higher_number while artificial boosts raise $essentially_zero to $acceptable_number.

Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by dmarcos on Friday March 13, 2026 @09:21PM (#47372303)
Your claim is that people that bought the cybertruck at a lower price don’t actually want it?
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by sigmarule on Friday March 13, 2026 @10:22PM (#47372655)
I believe the claim is that the demand side did not change, the supply side did, as in sales != demand.
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by dmarcos on Friday March 13, 2026 @11:12PM (#47372940)
Just quoting the above

“An artificial boost is given to stuff nobody wants, but at a lower price can be convinced to buy”

So people spent 60k on a cybertruck that they didn’t want? Is that the claim?

Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by pas on Saturday March 14, 2026 @09:04AM (#47376279)
the claim is that it moved sales forward in time, but it'll have a corresponding dip in sales later, whereas a good sales campaign increases total volume (virtually no dip, brings in new customers, etc)
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by parineum on Friday March 13, 2026 @09:50PM (#47372489)
> artificial boost is given to stuff nobody wants, but at a lower price can be convinced to buy.

People do want it, clearly, but it's too expensive for them.

Sales don't make people want things they otherwise don't.

Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by bdangubic on Friday March 13, 2026 @09:58PM (#47372521)
> Sales don't make people want things they otherwise don't.

That is exactly what sales do. most sales are made sellings things to people they don’t want, until sales does what sales does

Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by dmarcos on Friday March 13, 2026 @10:10PM (#47372599)
So people spent 60k on a cybertruck they don’t want? Do you believe that?
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by bdangubic on Friday March 13, 2026 @11:47PM (#47373151)
look around your house and see how much shit you got that you really want(ed). great salesman (and elon is the best in the history of the civilization) will sell you shit you never thought you wanted :)
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by dmarcos on Saturday March 14, 2026 @12:28AM (#47373358)
The motivation to buy something is always because you want it. That a product doesn’t meet your needs or expectations later is a different story. What’s your evidence to claim that people spending 60k in a cybertruck don’t want it? What’s your evidence to make a similar claim or the opposite for any other purchase? Without evidence it feels you are making baseless claims about peoples motivations.
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by bdangubic on Saturday March 14, 2026 @02:34PM (#47379668)
> The motivation to buy something is always because you want it

salesman make you want stuff you didn’t know you want it but now you do. entire world economy is built on this

Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by dmarcos on Saturday March 14, 2026 @05:08PM (#47381187)
Is it still your claim that people spending 60k on Cybertruck don’t want it? How do you know? Given the lack evidence feels like motivated thinking. You don’t like Elon and can’t accept that tons of people actually like him and his products.
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by sillyfluke on Saturday March 14, 2026 @09:14AM (#47376371)
literally almost everything I have bought on sale is something I wasn't looking to buy at that moment in time.
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by parineum on Saturday March 14, 2026 @05:04PM (#47381147)
How many of those things cost more than 10,000 dollars?
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by sillyfluke on Monday March 16, 2026 @02:26PM (#47402810)
I think you might be slightly misinformed on how many 10,000+ dollar purchases the average person makes in their lifetime to make sweeping statements of that nature. Advertizing sales on medical procedures or daycare could have the opposite effect I would imagine
Re:Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effor... by RobRivera on Friday March 13, 2026 @10:05PM (#47372560)
[X] doubt