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Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by gzread on Friday March 13, 2026 @12:21PM (#47366450)
Knowing if the user's over 18 doesn't imply total surveillance, it only implies a user profile setting that says if they're over 18.
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by vaylian on Friday March 13, 2026 @01:02PM (#47366926)
It implies that the user has access to the technical infrastructure that supports age verification. Sucks to be you, if you can't afford a recent Apple or Android device to run the AgeVerification app.

There is also the problem of mission creep. Once the infrastructure is in place, to control access to age-restricted content, other services might become out of reach. In particular, anonymous usage of online forums might no longer be possible.

Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by gzread on Friday March 13, 2026 @01:21PM (#47367162)
That technical infrastructure: a drop-down menu on the user's account settings
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by Magnusmaster on Friday March 13, 2026 @05:14PM (#47370011)
The EU Digital Wallet requires hardware attestation so only it only works on locked-down government-approved OSes. That opens the door for government control of all electronic devices.
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by gzread on Friday March 13, 2026 @07:34PM (#47371456)
What a shame. The California one is just an input box.
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by pc86 on Friday March 13, 2026 @12:55PM (#47366845)
Do you know what the word "infrastructure" means?
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by gzread on Friday March 13, 2026 @01:00PM (#47366911)
Do you know what "total surveillance" means? It doesn't mean a checkbox for over 18
Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by pc86 on Friday March 13, 2026 @01:08PM (#47366997)
I can't tell if this is a troll or not.

OS-level ability to verify the age of the person using it absolutely provides infrastructure for the OS to verify all sorts of other things. Citizenship, identity, you name it. When it's at the OS level there's no way to do anything privately on that machine ever again.

Re:I traced $2B in grants and 45 states' lobbying behind age... by gzread on Friday March 13, 2026 @01:22PM (#47367167)
I agree that a checkbox for if the user is over 18 opens the door to a checkbox for if the user is a citizen and even a textbox for the user's full name (which already exists on Linux so you better boycott Debian now!). I don't see how such input fields are "total surveillance".