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Re:Keep Your Identity Small by DaniFong on Saturday February 07, 2009 @11:46PM (#471833)
Buddhist practitioners are human too, of course, but a central practice in Buddhism is to dissolve and refute concrete belief in a persistent self and consciousness.
Re:Keep Your Identity Small by silentbicycle on Sunday February 08, 2009 @09:08AM (#472157)
I know. Anatman. I had disagreements between Buddhists in the Mahayana and Theravada schools in mind, though: I don't know of any escalating to violence(!), but the former calling the latter "Hinayana" (which is kind of like "The Inferior Way (to enlightenment)") is pretty petty. Nobody is immune to "my school of thought is better than yours" identity squabbling, unfortunately.

I think that some Buddhist practices are a pretty direct attempt to keep this sort of behavior in check, but still the old habits take a long time to simmer down. I think the central problem is when something in the animal brain mistakes criticism of identity for a physical threat. Meditation helps to see this for what it is and let it go, most of the time.

Re:Keep Your Identity Small by yters on Sunday February 08, 2009 @03:05AM (#472010)
Try breaking up an inner city gang fight by telling them to let their concrete beliefs dissolve in persistent self and consciousness.

My point is that this zen buddhism stuff is mainly the luxury of the elite few. Others have to grapple with the practicalities of daily survival, group membership, and hope for the future. Out of such things come the hard forged religious and political systems.

Re:Keep Your Identity Small by DaniFong on Sunday February 08, 2009 @03:23AM (#472020)
No one lives in a persistent fight. But for those that do experience conflict, I don't see how those who needn't sustain their identity in the face of adversity fare much worse than others.
Re:Keep Your Identity Small by jacoblyles on Sunday February 08, 2009 @04:29PM (#472511)
A central practice of Buddhists in 13th century Japan was to stab other people with swords.

Humans have wonderfully malleable minds.

Re:Keep Your Identity Small by DaniFong on Sunday February 08, 2009 @07:37PM (#472695)
These practices are not really inconsistent...
Re:Keep Your Identity Small by neilk on Monday February 09, 2009 @12:46AM (#473030)
Really, it's a short step from "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him" to "if you meet some dude on the road...."