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Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by tencentshill on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:26PM (#47144190)
It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by 0_____0 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:50PM (#47144514)
There is no contingent in the US federal government that has a coherent plan for doing what you're talking about.

The investment in capability that is necessary to build the next generation of manufacturing capabilities in the US is simply not within the public imagination.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by mothballed on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:29PM (#47145031)
I don't think it's something that can be centrally planned well.

If the US changes their environmental regulations to match China, lowered their tax-to-GDP ratio to match China, changed their worker regulations to match China, and then opened up free immigration from Mexico for cheap factory labor then the "free" market would likely take care of opening up quite a bit more manufacturing.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by cucumber3732842 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:20PM (#47146062)
Hell, don't even match it. Split the difference and it would unleash a torrent of economic activity.

It will never happen because there's too many industries and jobs that only exist because of all that regulation and will fight tooth and nail to avoid a short term haircut.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by 0_____0 on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @12:59AM (#47147889)
china did not synthesize shenzhen through having poor environmental regulations and cheap labor, nor would one expect to have a shenzhen appear spontaneously in the us if the us allowed in unlimited migrant labor and abolished all environmental law.
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Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by OsrsNeedsf2P on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:32PM (#47144271)
Was Kamala campaigning on bringing manufacturing to Texas?
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by dropofwill on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:49PM (#47144509)
Probably referring to the CHIPs Act? Technically Biden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by lastdong on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:59PM (#47144622)
Technically Kamala.

— As Vice President, Kamala Harris was a key proponent and promoter of the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act, which aims to boost U.S. semiconductor manufacturing.

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Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by hn_acc1 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:07PM (#47144738)
You mean, like FoxConn took $B from orange guy, promised 10K+ jobs, then sat on the land for a few years and did nothing? Sure, let's replicate that at scale..
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by Krustopolis on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:47PM (#47145794)
Things take time. Especially during the pandemic and its aftermath. How you been down to Arizona lately to see the developments? Not just the manufacturing itself but everything that has sprung up around it? It’s impressive.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by daymanstep on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:39PM (#47144346)
Managed to do what?
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by nxm on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:46PM (#47145211)
At least he’s trying. Instead of the other side just yelling about “corporate greed” while doing nothing but collecting lobbying money as jobs continue to get exported.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by tokyobreakfast on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:43PM (#47144428)
Build products in the US. Those jobs Steve Jobs told Obama are "never coming back".
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by daymanstep on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:54PM (#47144569)
Last time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by JohnTHaller on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:04PM (#47144702)
> Last time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025.

It's gone down according to the official US numbers, as expected

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by hn_acc1 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:08PM (#47144745)
Which of those have come back?
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by mothballed on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:17PM (#47144885)
Manufacturing output has been ~monotonically increasing except during the great recession for the past 3 decades. Jobs though have been basically monotonically decreasing.

We're still getting the strategic benefits of more manufacturing, just have fewer people getting their thumbs cut off in stamping machines or melted alive in steel mills.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by ryandrake on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:32PM (#47145069)
I don't think "we" are getting benefits from more manufacturing. Surely the company CEOs and shareholders are, but the average Joe who doesn't hold shares and just needs an honest, well-paying job is not reaping any benefits.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by mothballed on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:58PM (#47145325)
I view manufacturing to have some parallels like farming. An advanced society is eventually going to get the employment numbers down low through inevitable automation and technology. The goal then is to continue to enjoy having the food and things you made despite not being employed in those fields. How exactly that happens is up for debate.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:04PM (#47144696)
to be clear, the US has been rapidly losing manufacturing jobs since the orange coronation.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by xienze on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:40PM (#47144379)
He’s at least getting companies to pretend like they’re going to try. That’s a starting point. Before, the best you’d get out of these CEOs is “LOL those jobs are never coming back, learn to code or whatever else hasn’t been outsourced fully yet.”
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:03PM (#47144681)
His predecessor worked with Congress to actually bring microchip manufacturing back to the US and tried to keep us competitive with EV manufacturing (not to mention the infrastructure investments that are necessary for any serious manufacturing effort). Those were real commitments.

Extorting CEOs to announce investments (like the Zuckerberg hot mic incident) is not worth anything to me. Meanwhile the US has been hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs for the last year.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by palmotea on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:14AM (#47148386)
>> Just as manufacturing in China took time manufacturing in the US will take time. The US has lost much of its skilled labor and mom and pop parts shop. If we have any hope of re-invigorating this some large company is going to have to bite the bullet. Chicken and egg problem imo. I'll leave whether this is worth it or not up to the economists.

> It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim.

The problem is all the real leaders got indoctrinated and drank the globalization kool-aid. Unfortunately, it seems only an insane and chaotic person was able to actually buck the iamverysmart consensus.