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Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by yummyfajitas on Monday October 29, 2012 @03:40PM (#4714066)
The correct figure is 38.5 hours/week for 9 months/year.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/03/art4full.pdf

That's about $33.5/hour for wages alone. It also ignores the value of gold plated health care + pensions, etc.

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by Bud on Monday October 29, 2012 @03:51PM (#4714120)
"Gold plated" (sic) health care?

Tuck in your pants. Your bias is peeking out.

(Edit after being downvoted, in an attempt to be more constructive): Seriously, you seem to have an animus against teachers having decent health care. What's your problem with that, and why do you feel it's appropriate to label their quite average health care plans as "gold plated", as if they were unfairly receiving more health care than they are entitled to?

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by hindsightbias on Monday October 29, 2012 @05:05PM (#4714442)
It's always easier to hate people in your own class who have fought for rights than to fight for those rights yourself.

Sorry, I have to get back to believing whatever the 1% wants me to believe.

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by wpietri on Monday October 29, 2012 @04:53PM (#4714394)
According to the NEA, that's only scheduled hours, not actual work hours.

http://www.nea.org/home/12661.htm

That certainly matches the teachers I've known; they put in a ton of non-classroom hours, and often put in a fair bit of their own money.

A Gates Foundation survey puts it at 53 hours per week:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/survey...

And for teachers involved in extracurricular activities, the average is over 11 hours a day.

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by yummyfajitas on Monday October 29, 2012 @05:08PM (#4714455)
The numbers I cited are actual hours worked "last week" according to the BLS's American Time User Survey. It includes work performed "at a work location", "at home" and "at another location" (I assume this last one means starbucks).

You'd have known all this if you bothered to read even the introduction.

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by wpietri on Tuesday October 30, 2012 @12:52PM (#4718211)
Did read it. I didn't see them resolve the scheduled hours versus hours worked question.

And since the Gates Foundation numbers better match what every teacher I've ever talked to says, I'm going to run with them.

Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by yummyfajitas on Tuesday October 30, 2012 @01:49PM (#4718493)
Paragraph 2 explains that it tracks "activities that they engaged in".
Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by wpietri on Tuesday October 30, 2012 @08:54PM (#4720583)
Yep. Not convinced that they are really tracking what I'd like them to track.
Re:North Carolina teacher's resignation letter by acdha on Monday October 29, 2012 @04:46PM (#4714373)
38.5 hours is … unrealistic. It also ignores the fact that health care and benefits have been slashed heavily in recent decades so while there may be some older teachers enjoying the fruits of stronger unions, a prospective new teacher is looking at something roughly equivalent to what any software engineer would receive as far as benefits go. Salary is probably lower unless you're comparing a teacher in a very rich / urban area with a software engineer well outside of SF/NY/LA/etc.