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Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by MrBuddyCasino on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:15AM (#47122632)
> That's not normal market dynamics.

It is, in fact, normal market dynamics.

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by adrian_b on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:20AM (#47122689)
It's normal market dynamics for markets dominated by quasi-monopolies, which is why regulation should have prevented the existence of such markets.
Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by mustyoshi on Monday February 23, 2026 @10:00AM (#47123162)
I don't buy that it's because of the monopoly. TSMC has been starting a fab for close to 5 years.

It doesn't matter how many companies are in this market, it takes a real amount of time to add capacity.

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by marcosdumay on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:23AM (#47122721)
A single company that never made a profit outbiding the entire world is normal?
Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by YetAnotherNick on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:28AM (#47122793)
Yes. In fact that's not just normal, that's very frequent in market.
Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by MBCook on Monday February 23, 2026 @10:05AM (#47123215)
Please provide historical examples.
Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by MrBuddyCasino on Monday February 23, 2026 @11:24AM (#47124465)
The first known example is the 6th century BC, where a greek philosopher cornered the market on olive oil presses, because he predicted a richt harvest via his knowledge of astronomy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornering_the_market#Thales_of...

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by YetAnotherNick on Monday February 23, 2026 @02:14PM (#47127263)
Tyson Foods, Cargill, JBS, and National Beef controls roughly 85% of the U.S. beef market

CVS Caremark, Express Scripts, and OptumRx manage over 80% of all prescriptions in the U.S

Amazon buys 50% of all books.

These examples are even more extreme than at least 3 major clouds present in the US buying hardware.

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by toraway on Monday February 23, 2026 @02:55PM (#47127841)
The parent comment specified a company that has never turned a profit cornering the entire market.
Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by YetAnotherNick on Monday February 23, 2026 @03:58PM (#47128710)
Not even sure which company are they referring to. I assumed Amazon or Google or Microsoft or Oracle, but all of them have turned profit.

I don't think OpenAI purchase even comes even close to any of these.

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by marcosdumay on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @03:54PM (#47142856)
Well, you think wrong. OpenAI is the one that pre-hired 40% of the world's memory fab capacity.

And if you are going to protest with the common "OpenAI doesn't even build datacenters themselves!", yes, they don't, and it's a complete non-sequitur.

Re:Hetzner (European hosting provider) to increase prices by... by troyvit on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:33AM (#47122848)
Maybe not normal market dynamics, but typical human behavior: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Kosuga#Cornering_the_o...