Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi...
by copper4eva on Monday February 16, 2026 @10:16AM
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Yeah his claim is quite absurd really. If it was a weaker stockfish (bad hardware, older version etc.) then maybe. Modern stockfish pretty much crushes any and everyone. A draw alone would be extremely impressive, and maybe doable with enough luck from a top player. But even that is very far fetched nowadays. Let alone actually winning.
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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi...
by Taek on Monday February 16, 2026 @10:55AM
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Elsewhere in the thread he revealed that he achieved these results around the year 2015, which means we was playing against Stockfish 6 or earlier, estimated to have about 400 less ELO than today's Stockfish 18. Stockfish 6 didn't even have NNUE, so the real issue seems to be that he thinks his results from 2015 hold any relevance to the chess engines of today.
Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi...
by galkk on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @08:55AM
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Quick search shows elo of stockfish 6=3278 (1 cpu).
To assume that a human can beat that is just delusional.
Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi...
by Taek on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:38AM
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No not at all! You can find plenty of videos on YouTube of humans taking down 2015-era stockfish. Usually it involves exploiting specific weaknesses in the engine, for example bringing the game to a stalled position where the game nearly reaches the 50 move rule, and then the engine makes a disadvantaged move to avoid a draw.
Especially pre-NNUE, chess engines were often not fully well-rounded, and therefore a human with specific knowledge of the chess engine's weaknesses could take it down with enough attempts.