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Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by neogodless on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @11:17AM (#46962012)
Given that I.C.E. has been allowed to stop people just for not looking white enough, and even white citizens have been shot for being "near" I.C.E. operations, I would suggest that it is not safe to assume someone is not a citizen, just because I.C.E. makes them feel unsafe in their neighborhood.
Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by greenavocado on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @11:31AM (#46962326)
> even white citizens have been shot for being "near" I.C.E. operations

Explain exactly what you are referring to

Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by andrewla on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @11:28AM (#46962255)
I'm sorry, is this serious? Yes, Kavanaugh stops do exist and are problematic. But the question is -- are they doing them? Almost all of their operations in Minnesota (just assuming Minnesota here, apologies if I have mischaracterized) have been targeted operations, where they are pursuing a specific individual.

The two situations where someone was fatally shot were both targeted; they were not just grabbing brown people off the street and throwing them in the paddy wagon.

And if you're going to pretend that they just happened to be "near" ICE operations, and not actively trying to interfere and obstruct their operations (while attempting to stay technically inside the bounds of the law) then I don't think we can have a good faith conversation here.

The vast majority of people in Minnesota are simply unaffected by these operations. Many people have convinced themselves that they are at risk but this is not reflective of reality. If you claim to be changing your life in any way in response to this then you're just putting a fig leaf on decisions that you've already made.

Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by throwawayohio on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @12:13PM (#46963156)
> If you claim to be changing your life in any way in response to this then you're just putting a fig leaf on decisions that you've already made.

How insulting. Bad faith arguments have become way too prevalent on this site.

Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by epistasis on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @12:22PM (#46963341)
Agreed. You are not alone, all of us see what's going on, and it only takes a few bad actors that are highly motivated to cause the craziness you see on display here.

Regular, normal people are still in the majority, we just need to acknowledge each other and not let the propagandists flood the zone.

Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by andrewla on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @12:37PM (#46963626)
I will remove that accusation in the interests of not distracting from my main point. I don't know you and the particulars of your situation and apologize for an unsupported insinuation.
Re:The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline by WhompingWindows on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @12:31PM (#46963514)
If someone sees the world around them getting worse, I think it's pretty logical to not bring a child into that society.