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Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by pphysch on Monday February 09, 2026 @11:06AM (#46946748)
It's wild to see these comments from the same accounts that within the same 24-hours are (justifiably) hand-wringing over the corrupt and illegal actions of the US government, related to ICE, Epstein, etc.

The US government lies and does a lot of bad stuff, but we must believe everything they say about big bad chyna, the one entity big enough to hold the USG accountable.

Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by komali2 on Monday February 09, 2026 @11:37AM (#46947306)
This earth has plenty of room for more than one country doing bad stuff.
Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by pphysch on Monday February 09, 2026 @04:11PM (#46951388)
Yes, and we should exercise skepticism when criminals accuse others, to deflect and manipulate.
Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by SpicyLemonZest on Monday February 09, 2026 @11:47AM (#46947476)
The source article is from a British outlet, what does the US government have to do with it?
Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by pphysch on Monday February 09, 2026 @04:12PM (#46951409)
Most of the mentioned narratives are largely products of Radio Free Asia and the broader Western government propaganda complex. There's not much daylight between London and Washington when it comes to China.
Re:Hong Kong pro-democracy tycoon Jimmy Lai gets 20 years' jail by mindslight on Monday February 09, 2026 @01:04PM (#46948574)
This revolves around a core idea of what used to be called conservatism - the belief that Western values and institutions have some inherent value worth promoting. Both at home in the terms of Constitutionally-limited government, the rule of law, etc. And internationally through diplomacy to do what we can to spread those values - in this case a few strongly worded letters would have been a step up.

And on both topics, it is the same group of anti-American traitors openly trashing our values, both domestically and internationally, while abusing the cloak of "conservatism" to obscure what they actually stand for. So no, there is really no conflict when criticizing both.

(you are of course free to prioritize other values like non-intervention and come to a different answer for yourself on this topic. the point is there is no conflict for the two positions you contrast. and this used to be a pretty popular stance, actually)