Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by hobbyist on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:46AM
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So, what is the key innovation that changes hadoop from batch processing to real time. Is it similar to google's dremel?
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Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by TallGuyShort on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:52AM
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This doesn't change Hadoop from batch processing to real time - it's a new query engine that uses the same data sources/formats as Hadoop and the same interfaces as Hive. So yeah, similar idea to Google Dremel / F1.
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by ryanpers on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @12:38PM
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It isn't like F1 at all... F1 is a multi-datacenter, transactional datastore and SQL, that google uses to replace mysql.
This aint nothing like that.
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by monstrado on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:16AM
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You're right that the data is still stored in HDFS, and you can access the data that was originally accessed in Hive. However, because of the way Impala works, it does in fact provide a real-time query interface for data that is sitting in Hadoop (HDFS). The back-end is written in C++ and accesses/processes data much differently than MapReduce which allows for some pretty awesome performance numbers :-)
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by monstrado on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:10AM
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Correct, the technology is based on Google Dremel.
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by jbellis on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @01:36PM
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My reading was that columnar storage was a critical piece of Dremel. "Accessing the same data as Hive" doesn't sound like Impala is doing that. Is that optional then or is this just a query engine?
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by monstrado on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @01:55PM
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I can't say for sure, but I believe Doug Cutting's Trevni format is already in the beta but it's a slow version. Impala is initially focusing on architecture, I'm sure columnar format will have attention eventually.
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by hobbyist on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:04PM
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But google's dremel actually doesnt use Map-Reduce at all. So is this using just the HDFS and a new layer along side map-r that is using the HDFS?
Re:Cloudera announces real-time query engine for Hadoop
by qwertymaniac on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:37PM
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Impala does not seem to be using MR at all, see note: https://ccp.cloudera.com/display/IMPALA10BETADOC/Impala+Freq...