The person you’re criticizing says they’re a heavy AI user. The take was about OpenClaw, not AI.
I dropped $200 on Claude Max in my personal capacity to test OpenClaw because I use Opus 4.5 all day in Cursor on an enterprise subscription… because it works for those problems.
Right, I'm saying AI in general is an example of the unreliability of peoples experiences on openclaw. If people are so unreliable about the narrative of AI, I don't trust the narrative of openclaw which on this thread in particular is very negative and in stark contrast to the hype.
>I dropped $200 on Claude Max in my personal capacity to test OpenClaw because I use Opus 4.5 all day in Cursor on an enterprise subscription… because it works for those problems.
The comment wasn't directed at you personally. I'm just saying I want to see counter examples of openclaw succeeding, not just examples of it failing. Frankly on this thread there's Zero success stories which I find sort of strange.
Pretty much everyone in my company also uses AI. But everyone sees the same downsides.
Everyone sees the downsides but the upside is the one everyone is in denial about. It's like yeah, there's downsides but why is literally everyone using it?
Sometimes they have some good points so you should listen to what they have to say. But that doesn't mean you have to get absorbed into their world view. Just integrate what you see as useful from your current POV and move on.
Moltbot has the shape of the future but doesn’t feel like it to me. Sort of like Langchain once was. Demonstrated some new paradigm shift but is itself flawed so may not be the implementation that lasts. Time will tell.
The only thing here to say is “put it in a VM and try it”. It’s easy to try.
And there's plenty who worship at the altar of Claude.
There's more people saying AI doesn't live up to the hype. The people who are saying it's utterly useless is still quite large on HN. It's just that most of them are midway through changing their story because reality is smashing them in the face.
>And there's plenty who worship at the altar of Claude.
I mean who doesn't use it? No one claims it's perfect or a god of code. But if you're not using it you're behind.
It is possible they are correct and nothing you have written suggests otherwise.
> The people who are saying it's utterly useless is still quite large on HN.
Are these people's opinions less valid than your own? Are you angry your opinion might be a minority on this one website?
> It's just that most of them are midway through changing their story because reality is smashing them in the face.
You made this up.
> But if you're not using it you're behind.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man
Those of us who want to explore what people are doing have to wade through piles of comments saying the same thing, with very little difference from comment to comment.
That said, the opinion is quite valid. I think many people will continue to have no use for agents.
Meanwhile my entire company uses AI and the on the ground reality for me versus the cohort above is so much at odds with each other we're both claiming the other side is insane.
I haven't used these bots yet but I want to see the full story. Not just one guys take and one guys personal experience. The hype exists because there are success stories. I want to hear those as well.