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Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Arainach on Saturday January 31, 2026 @05:13PM (#46841431)
The legal landscape has also changed. 20 years ago I helped run a web forum, but with today's legal landscape - DMCA in the US, various different laws in the EU and other countries - I would never do so. The amount of liability on the host for user-created content is far too high.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Bender on Saturday January 31, 2026 @07:38PM (#46842455)
The legal landscape has also changed.

It did change a lot but the biggest changes were the ToS/AuP of server/VM providers. What was not even taboo in the early 00's was becoming a problem keeping an account active on clear-web sites. Across the board many providers starting using the vague word "lewd" a word I had never heard of even after running porn sites for a long time.

Many of us moved to .onion despite being incredibly slow at the time. We would keep an unpublished clear-web sub-domain active for the old time users so they had a fast connection. Eventually that was even problematic so many forum operators stopped accepting new users and made their forums private or semi-private. Some still exist and some got married, had kids and real life took too much time and energy to also run such sites.

Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by int_19h on Saturday January 31, 2026 @07:21PM (#46842342)
DMCA was already a thing 20 years ago?
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by pests on Saturday January 31, 2026 @08:34PM (#46842785)
he ran a forum 20 years ago, but today, with things like DMCA.....
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by direwolf20 on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:26PM (#46843608)
DMCA was already a thing 20 years ago
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by pests on Sunday February 01, 2026 @04:14PM (#46849431)
Wow that seems like yesterday. Time really does fly. Yeah you are correct I didn't think of the actual dates.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Manuel_D on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:27PM (#46843611)
It's closer to 30 now, passed in 1998.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by direwolf20 on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:25PM (#46843606)
You are shielded from liability if you respond to abuse reports.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Arainach on Sunday February 01, 2026 @04:12AM (#46844728)
In the US, maybe. In Europe, not necessarily. The UK's OFCOM regulations are particularly concerning.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by direwolf20 on Sunday February 01, 2026 @02:47PM (#46848767)
Europe is more bureaucratic. You have to register with the government to say you host user content and respond to abuse reports, and then respond to abuse reports, and you're shielded.
Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Arainach on Sunday February 01, 2026 @05:00PM (#46849798)
No, the reality is far worse - and prohibitively expensive in time and money to any individual as opposed to large corporation.

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/401475/

Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by direwolf20 on Monday February 02, 2026 @03:12AM (#46853646)
seems like their complaints are in two areas: bureaucracy to register, and needing to respond to abuse reports. Which is what I said.

They complain about hiring a moderation team to respond to abuse reports? How are they doing it now? Do they not respond?

Re:Finland to end "uncontrolled human experiment" with ban o... by Arainach on Monday February 02, 2026 @03:53PM (#46861393)
Compliance certification costs money - lots of it. The laws also require proactive scanning of uploaded material, not just responding to complaints, and require a person to be declared liable for mistakes.

Gone are the says of paying a couple hundred a year for a host and a vBulletin license. The new costs are many thousands plus permanent liability, and no thanks - that's way more than I'm going to do for a group of enthusiasts online.