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Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by bryanlarsen on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:22AM (#46755429)
Race is not a genetic concept, it's social.

Or more accurately, if it were genetic the races would look very different.

The genetic diversity of "black" alone exceeds the rest of the world combined.

So you have two choices:

1. Everybody is black.

2. The other races roughly stand, but there are dozens of different black races.

Or you can be more accurate and say race is cultural.

Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by terminalshort on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:32AM (#46755510)
OK, then let's do it right. But I think you know that isn't really the issue here. Nobody is putting out studies on correctly defined races by genetic groupings and intelligence either because the topic is still considered heresy. Your point that the commonly used definition of race is inaccurate is simply deflecting from this fact.
Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by yed on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:13PM (#46755885)
The point is there is no such thing as a “correct” grouping. The choice of what constitutes a group is completely subjective, it all depends on how far you choose to zoom in or out.
Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by terminalshort on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:39PM (#46756165)
There absolutely are correct and incorrect ways of partitioning data into groups. Human genetics is no exception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup

Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by yed on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:49PM (#46756269)
There are correct ways to group but there is no correct group size. Clustering algorithms inherently require some choice of sensitivity. There is no single correct choice for a given set of data, it all depends on what you’re trying to accomplish.
Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by inshard on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:55AM (#46755711)
Many sub-Saharan African populations, such as Bantu-speaking West Africans, exhibit relatively lower genetic diversity compared to the Khoisan people, who typically have light brown skin. The Khoisan lineages diverged from those leading to Bantu and other sub-Saharan groups around 100,000–150,000 years ago, making them one of the most ancient human ancestries.
Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by terminalshort on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:59AM (#46755752)
All are equally ancient. They are 100-150K years from the common ancestor and so are all others descended from that lineage.
Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by jyscao on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:19PM (#46755940)
Genetic diversity within continental races, including that of Sub-Saharan Africans, are mostly a consequence of genetic drift.

While genetic diversity between races are from selection. Thus the inter-racial genetic differences are more likely to manifest in trait differences that humans find more meaningful (which I use purely in a descriptive manner, not prescriptive), such as physiological (medical, metabolic), psychological & behavioral (personality), cognitive (intelligence), and of course physical (appearance, athletic).

The intra-racial differences that arise from genetic drift result in things that are still tangible genetic differences, e.g. ABO blood group frequencies, but don't map well onto characteristics that human societies place emphasis on as much.

And to address your point that:

>The genetic diversity of "black" alone exceeds the rest of the world combined.

This is because the level of genetic diversity as influenced by genetic drift is primarily a function of population size, and Africa being the origin of the Homo sapien species, and probably the Homo genus as a whole, has always had the highest level of effective population size. Thus genetic drift in Africans is least likely to be able to cause allele fixation on particular genes, and so such diversity is better preserved. But as already mentioned, these forms of genetic diversity is less likely to impact the observed traits that most humans, both academics/social scientists and your average joe, find "meaningful".

Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by DeathArrow on Sunday January 25, 2026 @12:34PM (#46756103)
>Race is not a genetic concept, it's social.

Is this also true for other mammals such as cats, dogs, pigs, cows, horses?

Re:Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Rac... by bryanlarsen on Monday January 26, 2026 @10:06AM (#46766516)
Most domesticated animal breeds are highly inbred so have much tighter genetic boundaries. It's much more similar to doing genetic research on human families, which is definitely fruitful.