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Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by SilverElfin on Friday January 23, 2026 @02:23PM (#46736621)
I absolutely think this is going to be a problem. This is a government that does not believe in the constitution. They are pushing the Ten Commandments in Texas and Louisiana schools, encouraging ICE agents to perform warrantless home invasions, and arresting US Citizens or their kids in below freezing temperatures. They will go much further than we imagined, well beyond what even China does to control their population. All power must be stripped from them.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by quantumfissure on Friday January 23, 2026 @02:42PM (#46736870)
You obviously are not very old or know a lot about US history. You should read up, nothing what you mention is new.

  >They are pushing the Ten Commandments in Texas and Louisiana schools
10 Commandments and religion in schools has been a battle since the beginning of the public school era. It was a huge deal specifically in the 1920's; 60's; and the 90's and 2000's. This is nothing new.

  >ICE agents to perform warrantless home invasions, and arresting US Citizens or their kids in below freezing temperatures
Wait till you hear about a kid named Elian Gonzalez from 2000. One of the most famous examples

  >This is a government that does not believe in the constitution.
I can't wait until you read the part about the PATRIOT Act, renewed consistently by both parties and supported by all three branches of Government. Also plate readers and tracking put in by the Obama administration. Expansion of Border Patrol by the same administration.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by nilamo on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:28PM (#46737450)
Just because we were a bad country in the past, does not mean we should continue to be a bad one today.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by DangitBobby on Friday January 23, 2026 @02:47PM (#46736942)
People tend to believe that the direction of progress should be forward, I guess.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by mmooss on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:03PM (#46737149)
Finding some precedents doesn't address the major changes. Do you really dispute there have been major changes in executive branch behavior?

> Wait till you hear about a kid named Elian Gonzalez

Elian's mother died at sea, trying to reach the US from Cuba with Elian. Elian's father sought to bring the child back to Cuba, but an uncle in Miami refused to surrender custody. Obviously, barring something unusual, a father has custody of their child and the INS, courts, and Department of Justice agreed. There was an extensive legal process and also mediation.

It became a partisan political issue and after all that the uncle still refused to surrender Elian. Law enforcement forcibly removed the child and gave custody to the father.

I don't see how that is related to the current warrantless home invasion policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez

Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by quantumfissure on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:11PM (#46737244)
> Do you really dispute there have been major changes in executive branch behavior?

No, but recent actions in the last 20 years, and certainly the last year have absolutely proven to me the Executive Branch, as I've been saying since the Reagan administration, has always had too much power.

> I don't see how that is related to the current warrantless home invasion policy.

While I agree, the point is the methods are the same as they were back then. INS and Border Patrol is exempt from (some) warrants. Border Patrol handled that raid. Badly.

I mean, we can talk about other Executive branches abusing their power all day (Waco; Homeland Security/TSA searches; DEA Searches; Iran-Contra; CIA Operations in the 60s-80's) etc... the point is, nothing ever changes.

Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by singleshot_ on Friday January 23, 2026 @06:43PM (#46739504)
> INS and Border Patrol is exempt from (some) warrants. Border Patrol handled that raid. Badly.

INS does not exist. While an agency may be exempt from (some) warrants, it is an undisputed fact that the raid that resulted in the capture of Elián González included a valid search warrant.

Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by lp0_on_fire on Friday January 23, 2026 @08:33PM (#46740236)
You’re being pedantic. INS was rolled into the homeland security umbrella in the early 2003s. The poster was obviously using an old name.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by singleshot_ on Sunday January 25, 2026 @10:12AM (#46754706)
It's far better to be pedantic than to constantly spout misinformation.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by IAmBroom on Friday January 23, 2026 @04:33PM (#46738223)
"BSAB" Fallacy detected.
Re:House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate by singleshot_ on Friday January 23, 2026 @05:26PM (#46738838)
> Wait till you hear about a kid named Elian Gonzalez from 2000. One of the most famous examples

A brief fact check: Elián González was and is not a US citizen, nor was he the child of US citizens, nor was he arrested by ICE, nor was the raid that resulted in his capture performed without a warrant.

I might wait to hear about him until I encounter someone with more accurate information.