In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels

Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday January 22, 2026 @12:55PM (#46722783)

Great job of indirectly implying that there must be a tradeoff. Funny thing though: those poor countries? They're not building nuclear, or oil fired, or coal fired, or natural gas plants. They're installing solar. Not necessarily because they care about what percentage of their energy usage is renewable, but because there is no tradeoff.

Further, environmental protection is not a luxury good, it's a long term investment. Ask me more in another 30-50 years when the larger impacts of climate change are happening. Or ask someone else about how much we've spent on superfund cleanup sites.

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Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by SamPatt on Thursday January 22, 2026 @01:20PM (#46723112)

Everything has a tradeoff. That's a foundational truth of economics.

Environmental protection is a luxury good in economic terms. The Environmental Kuznets Curve is compelling to me. It's extremely difficult to assess the ROI on long term investments, particularly when your country has unstable rule of law or conflict.

I'm pro-solar, it's amazing technology that empowers individuals and communities. I just don't agree that everything I love I must force other people to pay for.

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Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by direwolf20 on Thursday January 22, 2026 @02:07PM (#46723728)

How do you compensate your neighbors for the loss of garden view caused by your house?

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Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by embedding-shape on Thursday January 22, 2026 @02:26PM (#46723970)

Is that something you usually have to pay your neighbors where you live? If you put up some ugly thing in your garden you have to pay your neighbors?

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Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by direwolf20 on Thursday January 22, 2026 @05:55PM (#46726181)

Sam said he doesn't force other people to pay for things he loves, so I'm wondering how he doesn't force his neighbors to pay for his house with their view.

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Re:In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels by AlexandrB on Thursday January 22, 2026 @01:35PM (#46723347)

Environmental protection may be a long-term investment, but reducing CO2 emission is probably not. The results are too diffuse and you're at the mercy of other countries' energy policy. If you're a small country, you can invest in CO2 reduction all you want, but what actually happens will be up to the US, China, and India.

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