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Re:Can you slim macOS down? by AceJohnny2 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:20PM (#46710191)
> Feels like the article is just a cheap dunk on macOS.

That blog, Howard Oakley at eclecticlight.co, is consistently the most informative on the internet about macOS behaviors and internals, that Apple does not explain. He is also the author of several useful tools [1] to help observe and understand some of its underlying details. It's maybe the closest we have to a SysInternals for macOS.

[1] https://eclecticlight.co/free-software-menu/

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by sbuk on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @03:11PM (#46710911)
It is. Add we all have off days. Perhaps Howard has had one here. I mean, he is defining what type of OS it is by how it's configuted. Which is just wierd.
Re:Can you slim macOS down? by Moto7451 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @04:07PM (#46711567)
I got a chuckle out of that for my own reasons as a long time Mac user as “Mac OS X is Unix” was the brand back in the 10.0-10.3 days, to the point I believe they got a Unix certification by someone, and then again with macOS 15 they got an Open Group UNIX certification.

https://www.osnews.com/story/140868/macos-15-0-now-unix-03-c...

I can’t say this affects me in any way I’m aware of, but the perception presented here is interesting.

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by sgjohnson on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @04:15PM (#46711661)
Funnily enough, they had no certification and weren’t compliant in 10.0-10.3 days, so what they were doing was trademark infringement, hence the lawsuit from the Open Group. 10.4 was the first compliant version. And oh boy they really milked it for several years afterwards.

https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an-OS-to-be-Unix...

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by sgjohnson on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @02:22PM (#46710222)
That just highlights my point about this article being a cheap dunk?

Because I was very disappointed with it ending at “SSV doesn’t let you”. SSV can be disabled, and the author should have known (almost certainly knows) that.

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by AceJohnny2 on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @03:09PM (#46710885)
Disabling SSV may have been beyond the scope of the experiment the author was attempting. I suppose he could've been more explicit about that.

From one of his comments on his post:

> I wish whoever takes that project on, every success, even more so at working out how those processes can be disabled completely while keeping the SSV intact.

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by jabwd on Wednesday January 21, 2026 @08:34PM (#46714094)
The thing I find disappointing about the article is that nothing else seems to have been explored. Now no options might exist, but then again, isn't the point of such a write up to find the ones that.... do...?

A lot of people know that modern macOS is a bit of a let down when it comes to modifying it unless you disable a bunch of security layers. So the information gained is basically 0.

Edit: I should clarify that some of the ways they analyze how services are launched etc. are quite interesting, though I hope my prior thought makes sense to some.

Re:Can you slim macOS down? by philistine on Thursday January 22, 2026 @08:17AM (#46718855)
Disabling the SSV is perhaps the worst mistake you can make to a macOS install. Howard certainly knows that this is true but has chosen not to explore the details in this article.

His website are deep dives into the technical workings of macOS that no one else does. I’d even argue he has more insights and documentation than Apple. It might sound harsh, but he’s just very clinical about it.